Hi

Anyone who have heard these speakers?
Positively reviewed by J. Hector in hifi+ issue 44.

well, its name has Naim in it, so it must be good. Work close to a wall. :D

Kibri is a Danish hifi manufacturer - they deal mostly in speakers, but they also do a pre amp AFAIK. I have heard Naima's little brother, Caelum, at a hifi show in Copenhagen - and I thought they made some of the most interesting sounds at this particular show, playing music fed by NAS Space Deck/some pre amp/Exposure 18 IIRC. Check the web site http://www.kibri.dk/ if further interested.

Thom

Kibri is a German manufacturer of model railroad things.

Now you know...

JohanR

The Danish do have awkward ways of translating - shouldn't the brand's name be spelled as SHØHINIÅN?
Very nice looking speakers, though!
The smaller speaker with the top-firing unit shown on the website looks like NVA's cube loudspeaker from some years ago.

Hi all...

ohconfucius - "work close to a wall" - how do you know that, cause of the pictures?

Thom PC - thanks for the info. I think Naima are a replacement for Caelum, wich are discontinued. How would you discripe the sound of Caelum?

RJohan - yes, a quick look at Google confirms this....

magentawhale - they look a lot like Shahinians, but with a lot of personality i think.

Are they avalible in UK? - Still no distributor on the webpage...

ohconfucius - "work close to a wall" - how do you know that, cause of the pictures?
just a guess - all things Naim, you know! ;)

just a guess - all things Naim, you know! ;)

Oh! :D
I looked up the name "Naima" - it´s origin arabic for "princess" (or something like that....).

Maybe Mr. Hector will comment his test in hifi+ ?

Mr Hector has already reviewed them in hi-fi plus I seem to remember. Quite positive and not fussy about walls if I´m not mistaken.

Hi Chris...

Yeah, thats right. But it would be nice with some more comments.
For the price it should be excellent - more music than hifi.

The estimated price was to be 1350 quid then. Seems quite cheap in comparison with others (Shahinians, Heeds etc.)

magentawhale - they look a lot like Shahinians, but with a lot of personality i think.
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Briza,

you're absolutely right - I think the speakers look very nice indeed, and finish seems to be of a high standard. I'd like to hear them on a demo, but it looks like the dealer network hasn't extended beyond the Danish borders, yet.

just saw the site. the products look interesting. nice stuff coming out of Dk these days!

Such simple crossovers - I wonder how come speaker sensitivity is only 88db?

Most speaker manufactures claims too high sensitivity-figures. They seldom seems to match real life measurements. Maybe the 88dB is correct (I don't find it too be on the low side!?), but whats more interesting, like Mr. Hector finds, they are not hard to drive, but like some control in terms of current. This should make them sing with Naim, old Exposure, Dynavector etc.
Thom PC heard them at an exhibition - driven by an Exposure amp. Surely not a coincidence...
I find, that simple crossovers are superior, if you have control over it (and the design too match - speaker units etc.). However, there are a price to pay, and the rise in impedance with frequence, can be one of them. But this should not be a problem with a well engineered amp.

Hi all...

They are now available at Walrus Systems!
kibri's homepage confirms this.

Spica TC-50 anyone?

Briza,

Not sure there is a great deal to add beyond the review. They are good speakers for the money more capable than most in producing believable scale even at low volumes and they sound fun and lively with plenty of speed. The sound is very pseudo-omni so will either love or hate them tbh. At the price they seem to be the cheapest way of getting that sound available right now. One other thing I still think they look poor on the supplied stands. Maybe the new Quadraspire stands would look better?

The Kibri speaker I really want to hear is the little eA cubic speaker - they are very interesting and could be a great way of going surround in modest spaces.


Cheers

Jason

aquapiranha - Well, a slanted baffle... The Spica was a triangle, if memory serves me correct..!?!

Jason - thanks for your comments. Easy to see you liked the speakers and thats a good thing when used to Obelisks.
Regard stands: I think they look cool on the pic in hifi+ , almost sculpturel. Funny how different we see things. Are you refering to the acrylic stands? Not in this home! ;)
eA - why not ask for a review, or..?

Best

I jnust didn't warm to their looks and that could have been because the ones I had were finished in a dark wood stain that really didn't help, they are extremely well constructed as well.

They really do the omni thing well. The one caveat on the sound was the treble which tended to roll off a little early in my quite damped room so make sure you get a home demo, toe in did have an affect as did the heght of your ears relative to the speaker - I think the stands were a little too high for my sofa!

What would you drive them with? As you rightly spotted they benefitted from the control of a big amp and they are revealing enough to complete a transparent system

Cheers

Jason

Those eA Cubics remind me of Allison 6s

Jason - I suppose the ones you heard are the same as seen on the photos?
If you compare the Naima to the Obelisk, where the treble position higher when placed on the Pro-ject stands? I suppose, course the Obelisk are a surprisingly small speaker.. maybe it´s a matter of distance to the speaker, more than lack of energy in the treble (as you point out)!

I got different amps - old Exposure, Manley, etc.
I´ll try them at home - sure.

The photos are a little misleading, the photographer was careful with the choice of illumination etc. and the result is a much lighter looking finish.

The stands placed the treble higher than the Obelisk, but the biggest difference is they are asking a single tweeter to work with a very wide dispersion. I am also sure they have been tuned for a live acoustic.

cheers

Jason

OK - I like them dark ;)
You are right about the tweeter are asked a big deal, but if done right, it should be able to perform seamless with the mid/bass. It´s difficult to build with more units - especially if asked to do the same! The Obelisks four tweeters are in parallel as far as I know - but all pointing different ways and this is part of the secret I think. They wont "disturb" each others phase and dispersion pattern.
The Naima are called "semi omnidirectional" - not all that wrong I guess!!

No problems with choice of colors anymore: http://www.kibri.dk/productinfo.asp?id=1

Nice! O)

Briza, this is beginning to look like a bit of forum hype for Kibri. I've also noticed that your forum handle starts with one syllable of the name of the manufacturer who's the subject of this thread.

Please reassure us that you're just a regular punter and not in any way connected to the manufacturer or one of their agents.

C'mon Markus, don't be so square. You should have let the guy play more with us. It was soooo interesting to watch.

Do we really look like a bunch of morons?

Do you really want an answer to that, Gordan? :)

I'm afraid I know the answer but I would rather not say it loud.:cool:

briza.

if you really want your speakers to sell, what you need to do is send a pair for me (or mick parry) to review.

vuk.

C'mon Markus, don't be so square. You should have let the guy play more with us. It was soooo interesting to watch.

Do we really look like a bunch of morons?


It would appear that I am a moron, or a gullible fool at least, bugger!


Cheers

Jason

No moron, Jason, just a victim of a slimy cheap trick to try to promote a product. Surely, a good product does not need selling tactics like this..?
Seems like you win on this one as far as I can see.
Respect Jason,

Steve - not a briza customer.

Briza, this is beginning to look like a bit of forum hype for Kibri. I've also noticed that your forum handle starts with one syllable of the name of the manufacturer who's the subject of this thread.

Please reassure us that you're just a regular punter and not in any way connected to the manufacturer or one of their agents.

Reading the thread again, I see your point.
See - when joining a thread I suppose people have an interest in the subject. This is why I post the links: to start a conversation!

No, I have no connections to kibri. Just gathered some information on the web and from Jasons review.

Live in north of Germany. Played on Compass for years, moved to a smaller flat, read the review, find them to be interesting. End.
Notihing more to it.

Good. Manufacturers can advertise their stuff in the commerce room and have to pay Tony 50 quid a year for the privilege. In the audio room, manufacturers are welcome, too, of course, and can answer specific questions about their products, but are expected to refrain from promoting their wares otherwise.

I have just bought a pair of these; they are beautiful, have breathed life into the system and opened it right up. I am driving them with a 40w valve amp, Michell Orbe with an Illustrious arm holding the Lyra Dorian cartridge. I'd recommend anyone looking for an open and natural sound to audition a pair of these. I got mine from the excellent people at Walrus in New Quebec Street, London.