I don't get a great signal at our house as we live in a valley - a bit of pole extending has helped a bit and a bloody great ron smith aeriel on the end of scaffolding but still the reception isn't good enough - I get a background hiss on radio 3 and most signals are hard to lock on to with both the naim nAT101 and a creek 3040 that I have already

my theory is that a big american tuner will have been designed to latch on to bugger all signal and make the most of it (lots of miles between towns and hills to in usa is my theory anyhow) - On reading some sites I hear british tuners critisised and wondered if this might be the answer to my problem

any suggestions? would the old 70's jap things be ok or do I need an american one? or am I talking pollax?

TIA

Darren

old japs are cheap enough on fleabay to try out. Kenwood, Yamaha tuners can be had for under £60, if it works, move up on the model ladder...check out FMTuners at www.yahoogroups.com and/or www.fmtunerinfo.com

Obvious question, but are you sure that your aerial is pointing in the best direction, at the strongest transmitter for your area? Somewhere on the BBC website there is a page which shows where the transmitters are, and what the optimum frequency is for where you live. If this fails, then DAB (gulp) may actually be a better option.

certainly naim tuners are fairly crap at dxing.

the kremlin was fantastic and would pick up stations on a piece of wet string.

there were some very sensitive 80's receivers by hitachi and pioneer.


make sure your antenna is the most suitable for the job, a rotator with a directional aerial might give you some gains.

Any of the high end Japanese tuners should work well. I'd normally recommend a 70s analogue tuned Trio, Pioneer, Denon or Accuphase but in your situation an 80s/90s digitally tuned super tuner might be better.

Something from the Pioneer 'Elite' range like the F91 or the cheaper F676, F767, the Technics STG70 or STG90 or the venerable Hitachi FT5500mk2. All are excellent and can be had for under £50 in most cases, perhaps nearer £100 for the luxury F91.

had two aeriel guys up there who confirm it is - we do have a second choice but the valley makes that even less viable - might end up with a skybox but would prefer the simplicity of a proper tuner

I have the radio on most of the day so it is not a uge problem but when I want to listen to something particular (shorty becker a moment ago) the hiss or distortion kicks in - will go back to the creek for a bit to see if that was better but Idoubt it will be - really wondering if the theory is correct ie

is a big 5 gang tuner better designed to grab weak signals and cut them from the surrounding garbage than this british (never more than 20 miles from a transmitter nancy boy) finest?

Darren

I have a Pioneer TX-7500 on which, up until about 5.30pm today, I was only able to get a maximum of 2.5 bar (out of 5) signal strength on any station when connected to a loft mounted aerial in a poor-ish reception area.

I spent some of this afternoon moving stuff about to give my speakers a bit more room to perform at their best and, in the process, moved the hifi boxes 24 inches along a wall, resulting in a coil of excess aerial under the rack, and a signal strength of 5 bars. The tuner has moved all of 2 feet but the signal strength and sound has improved incredibly - would any such move in your room be possible, to see if there is a better signal available?

I'd consider a late 70's hi end Sansui or the like as a tester. This American site has lots of information you might find of some interest. I've always had to service to make my vintage tuners sound any good but they certainly can and often with a fairly weak signal.


http://www.fmtunerinfo.com/

Are we neighbours?

I live at the bottom of a steep sided valley surrounded by trees. Pretty yes, but signal gets blocked within seasons & the damn trees keep growing.

No chance of freeview TV for me Sky is the only way we receive TV

For Radio I was advised Sky would be the best bet, but I actually get a reasonable good signal with an Onkyo Tuner & this has much better quality on FM than the Teac DAB tuner I have.

Onkyo products are sleepers in the UK check out German E bay & you see loads of them

It all depends on situation so get advice from a good aerial guy

I live in FM Hell here in the US. For example, worst reception is the highest (attic mount) with near line-of-sight path to my targeted transmitter 20 miles away. However, the best reception is with a folded dipole (throw-away crap from Radio Shack) aimed broadside to the same transmitter while mounted in the basement with a mountain of dirt between the dipole and the transmitter...go figure. I've tried everything from Magnum's ST-2 to Godard's FM-2A and the folded dipole pulls in a stronger, better-sounding signal when using my can't-get-a-signal-if-its-life-depended-on-it Naim 101.

Moral of this story...try what you've been told can't work...it might.

regards,

dave

Darren

I live almost as high as you can get in the Pennines and can get a good signal on a piece of wet string.

I have a Sansui TU 517 which you are more than welcome to borrow if you can get up to collect.

Regards

Andy

Tuners are designed either for sensitivity or selectivity, and seldom both. A recent tuner that offers switchable sensitivity/selectivity is the Densen B-800. I haven't heard it, and so I can't comment on that specific model.

However, I have compared a Naim NAT02 hooked up to a Ron Smith G17 and a Yamaha T-1 analogue tuner from the 80s, and it is clear the Naims are designed for selectivity whereas the Yamaha for sensitivity. The latter would work on a ribbon antenna anywhere in the house, but the Naim demands nothing less than the G17, and even then, the signal is never as strong.

James

I also live in a bad reception area.

I used a FM-Walkman and walked around the house to find a position with decent reception and placed the antenna there. I use a 1970's Sansui with decent result.

If everything else fails, note that Tivoli table radios has a extremely sensistive front end (borrowing some mobile phone technology, it seems). I have one and it receives everything, even in my area.

JohanR

Try www.bbc.co.uk/reception/transmitters/radio_trans/index.shtml
Regards
Chris

Andy

a loan of your sansui would be great will pm you for details of where you are etc

might be worth trying rotating the ariel on the roof to the other tranny just in case - it is a glaxy 17 which I presumed would mean a good signal but am now wondering if a simple loop aeriel might do a better job - certainly the second guy said "you wanna ditch that crappy monster and use a proper aeriel"

thanks for the advice guys most useful - will also try moving the box a bit in the room as there is scope for that

rgds

darren

I don't get a great signal at our house as we live in a valley - a bit of pole extending has helped a bit and a bloody great ron smith aeriel on the end of scaffolding but still the reception isn't good enough - I get a background hiss on radio 3 and most signals are hard to lock on to with both the naim nAT101 and a creek 3040 that I have already

I'm another with similar problems. I solved it with a signal amplifier.
I got a RS Galaxie, pointed it at our "local" transmitter, extended the aerial with a RS extension kit, poked it on a higher pole, pointed it at Sutton Coldfield (miles away, but a better signal) but after all that things still weren't brilliant. In the end I tried an aerial signal amp, which worked. The masthead signal is clean but weak, so an amplifier works well. Try one from the likes of B&Q - if it doesn't work for you, just take it back.
I ended up buying one from Russ Andrews because it has even more gain than the Maxview from B&Q, but if signal amplification works for you, the ulitimate is to get a masthead amplifier. It's not that expensive, but I'd need a man to go up the pole to fit it for me (chicken!), and frankly, the current set-up's good enough.

thanks - more of an emu than a chicken though I guess - might be worth a try with an amp as you say can take it back

rgds
darren

Darren give me a shout when your nearby, any day except Wednesday`s

Regards

Andy

PS I am on the hilltops above Hebden Bridge, Ask bourney he`s been and will tell you how long it took.

Thanks to Andy I have a temporary loan of a TU517 - it does have less background hiss which is helped by the noise reduction toggle so generally (in my area) better than the naim which costs many times its price

on the look out for something similar to try = HOWEVER I am listening to radio three and can still hear a faint background hiss - it is a live bit of orchestral music so there shouldn't be any hiss? the tuner signal guage is showing just under 4 (scale goes to 5) and the tuner seems locked on to the station as can't improve the reception by fiddling

any clues as to what may be done to get a silent bckground? is a more modern quartz locked 90's tuner needed? more work with the ron smith on the roof? any ideas?

thanks

darren

I dunno, I've frequently notice a bit of hiss on the R3 live relays, and suspect its due at least partly to the link back to the studio. The music is usually fabulous though.

Oh, does the tuner have a wide/narrow bandwidth toggle to play with, or stereo blend? These are always worth trying if reception is marginal-to-good.

I've never managed to get rid of a slight amount of background hiss on R3 even my mates Naim NAT05 with a Galaxy 17 properly installed does this, my TU-717 does it less. I suspect there's very little you can do about it. It's possibly due to the the fact that sometimes R3 actually plays quiet music, although I've noticed recently that their use of compression has become much more invasive

been playinng with the switches re narrow/wide and tdx noise reduction and they do cancel some of the noise (hence the improvement over the naim I suspect) - I had always put the background hiss down to my reception on the naim - in quiet passages it is very noticable does everyone hear this on R3?
might a higher up the range tuner make any difference (more knobs to fiddle with?) I like the look of the sansui and there is one on ebay at the moment - might be worth trying the digital pioneer rob recommended though first

Martin - when yuo say a good signal do you just mean 5 on the signal guage or are you referring to how it sounds?
thanks

darren

Just how it sounds - my Onix has no signal meter. I'm in the middle of Bath, which is a bit of a bowl, with no line of sight to the local (80w) transmitter which is about 2miles away in a straight line. Heavy rain noticeably makes a mess of otherwise clear reception, and dropping to narrow IF then really helps in reducing the annoyance factor.

I use a NAT01: there is very occasionally atmospheric disturbance which can be faintly heard, but isn't generally obtrusive, and reception is notably worse in the summer, but as a general rule I don't get any background hiss whatsoever on Radio 3.

Erm, here in cheese country we know what a valley is, and Revox used to build excellent tuners just for that purpose. An old Marantz 10B might sound even better, but reception-wise any Revox is, to my knowledge, pretty difficult to beat.

A mint B160 can be had for roughly £80, a B260 for £120. B261s are just as good but their design is a matter of taste. There are plenty of old B760s for sale, their sound is impressive but their power supplies are getting old and difficult (if not impossible) to replace.

Darren

Just thought on, when you bring the TU517 back, If you have`nt already settled on a new tuner you can take my other more modern Sansui tuner with you and try that out. Its a T 505L Hav`nt got a clue if its any good as I have not got it yet, I bought it off Borats Baby.

As i only listen to Talk sport, 5 Live and footy the quality does not really effect me too much

thanks andy - just listening to the 517 now and it sounds (and possibly more importantly looks) the business - on the look out for one on looks and price alone against my Nat 101

Had to do a little repair work to get it going (must have had a tough journey back like me) nothing drastic just the tuning knob grub screw - also noticed it has some minor issue on the output pot - once it settles on a decent bit of track though it doesn't cause any problems

very nice tuner - my 11 year old thinks it looks cool too

Rgds

Darren

Couple of points about long Yagis: The aerial has gain because of the narrowing of the horizontal capture angle so any station not within that angle will have its signal attenuated by a considerable amount. A longer the Yagi, the lower its takeoff is. It's called the Brewster angle and if sitting in the lee(sp) of a hill, a simple dipole has been known to outperform a massive beam because the Yagi points straight at the hill. Some VHF signals are well known to follow the terrain by 'hugging' the ground and will enter the aerial from 'on high'. Finally, ensure the feeder/coaxial cable is the best that money can buy - it's still the cheapest way of increasing the gain of an antenna system whereas common TV coax is the finest way to screw it all up.

which is the finest money can buy then Les? I think I have satellite coax installed at the mo - I get 4 or 5 on the sig meter so wonder if it has far to go?

the aerial guy said I didn't need all that ron smith bollucks and a simple dipole would be fine so might be worth a try - anyone wanna buy a galaxy 17?

I'll let you do a search for 75 Ohm low loss coax, there are loads better than the satellite stuff you'll find. Compare the specs at 1GHz for the same length.

Your aerial bod may just have been right as they get to know the terrain and to propagation around the area. The Galaxy may be inappropriate in your location for the reasons above.

His exact words were:

WTF is that bloody monstrosity - I suspected at the time he was more of a B&Q specialist and dismissed his claim that whatever the hell it was it wouldn't be any good - I was new to all this hifi lark and had read on the naim forum the RS galaxy was the best you could get

perhaps I dismissed too readily

So Les, what is the recommended lovely-coax-cable for such applications please?

There's some very nice Aircell cable which I'll find for you Linds - don't go away......

Darren

Ron Smith used to recommend CT100 which is double screened super low loss.

Have you discussed your problems with the Ron himself?

I have the Ron Smith Aerial Guide - I could scan and pdf it for you. Let me know if you would like a copy.

Regards

Stuart

I use Magnum Dynalab RG59, and I think that there is also an RG6 cable which is designed for longer cable runs. It is excellent, and much better than standard coaxial.

I use Magnum Dynalab RG59, and I think that there is also an RG6 cable which is designed for longer cable runs. It is excellent, and much better than standard coaxial.

According to Ron Smith, the RG6 is good low loss cable, but the losses are some 10% higher than CT100.

Stuart

Stuart - thanks. I might try a run of CT100.

I agree with Les, huge multi element arrays are not always the answer, unless you mount them on a rotor. I live just a few miles from the transmitter in London and get plenty of signal from a simple five element FM roof aerial.

Bigger gives more gain but brings it's own drawbacks.

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Bigger gives more gain but brings it's own drawbacks.

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Jacques

I've ben looking at an old thread on here as I'm thinking of a Ron Smith for my NAT01 (everyone seems to think it is the thing to have!). However, some replies indicated that even this didn't remove all hiss.

I'm in Kingston Surrey (fairly built up but haven't a clue where the transmitter is??:confused:) so would a RS make a huge difference over and above a circular FM aerial if both were placed high up??

I've ben looking at an old thread on here as I'm thinking of a Ron Smith for my NAT01 (everyone seems to think it is the thing to have!). However, some replies indicated that even this didn't remove all hiss.

I'm in Kingston Surrey (fairly built up but haven't a clue where the transmitter is??:confused:) so would a RS make a huge difference over and above a circular FM aerial if both were placed high up??
The nearest high power transmitter to you is Wrotham (due East)

Mike

I've ben looking at an old thread on here as I'm thinking of a Ron Smith for my NAT01 (everyone seems to think it is the thing to have!). However, some replies indicated that even this didn't remove all hiss.

I'm in Kingston Surrey (fairly built up but haven't a clue where the transmitter is??:confused:) so would a RS make a huge difference over and above a circular FM aerial if both were placed high up??

Here you go. Make a copy and I'll delete in a few days to save Tonys bandwidth. You can stick it into Excel and it'll put the colums back. The last entry in each line shows the signal strength. The higher the better.

Cheers,

DV

Kingston upon Thames
(00w17/51n25)

51 stations above threshold 35 db
MHz Cty program transmitter Pdir Pmax Dist azi dBµV
88.10m G BBC Radio 2 Guildford (sur) 3 3 31km 227° 52 i
88.40v G BBC Radio 2 Kenley (col) 0.02 0.025 17km 130° 39 i
88.80v G BBC Radio 2 Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
89.10m G BBC Radio 2 Wrotham (knt) 250 250 41km 105° 65 i
89.60m G Southall Community Radio Southall/Windmill Business Centre (col) 0.013 0.05 11km 334° 44# i
89.70v G BBC Radio 2 Mickleham (sur) 0.025 0.025 17km 192° 40 i
90.30m G BBC Radio 3 Guildford (sur) 3 3 31km 227° 52 i
90.60v G BBC Radio 3 Kenley (col) 0.02 0.025 17km 130° 39 i
91.00v G BBC Radio 3 Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
91.30m G BBC Radio 3 Wrotham (knt) 250 250 41km 105° 65 i
91.80v G Hayes FM London-Hayes/St Anselms Church (col) 0.025 14km 316° 45 i
91.90v G BBC Radio 3 Mickleham (sur) 0.025 0.025 17km 192° 40 i
92.50m G BBC Radio 4 FM Guildford (sur) 3 3 31km 227° 52 i
92.80v G BBC Radio 4 FM Kenley (col) 0.02 0.025 17km 130° 39 i
93.20v G BBC Radio 4 FM Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
93.50m G BBC Radio 4 FM Wrotham (knt) 250 250 41km 105° 65 i
94.10v G BBC Radio 4 FM Mickleham (sur) 0.025 0.025 17km 192° 40 i
94.30v G The Voice of Africa London-Plaistow (col) 0.025 25km 54° 41# i
94.90m G BBC London 94.9 Crystal Palace (col) 4 14km 87° 67 i
95.40v G BBC R.Berkshire Windsor (rea) 0.5 24km 288° 53 i
95.80m G Capital Radio Croydon (col) 4 14km 93° 67 i
96.30 G Big Blue Chelsea Football Club (col) 0.01 10km 43° 37 i
96.40m G 96.4 The Eagle Guildford (sur) 3 3 31km 227° 52 i
96.70m G BBC R.Kent Wrotham (knt) 0.5 8.7 41km 105° 38 i
96.90v G Choice FM Crystal Palace (col) 0.006 0.03 14km 87° 40 i
97.30m G LBC 97.3 Croydon (col) 4 14km 93° 67 i
97.70m G BBC Radio 1 Guildford (sur) 3 3 31km 227° 52 i
98.00v G BBC Radio 1 Kenley (col) 0.02 0.025 17km 130° 39 i
98.50v G BBC Radio 1 Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
98.80m G BBC Radio 1 Wrotham (knt) 125 125 41km 105° 62 i
99.30v G BBC Radio 1 Mickleham (sur) 0.025 0.025 17km 192° 40 i
100.00m G Kiss FM Croydon (col) 2 4 14km 93° 64 i
100.60v G Classic FM Crystal Palace (col) 2 2 14km 87° 67 i
100.90m G Classic FM Wrotham (knt) 250 250 41km 105° 65 i
101.40v G OnFM Hammersmith (col) 0.025 9km 25° 51# i
101.60m G KMFM Wrotham (knt) 0.2 0.4 41km 105° 35 i
102.20m G 102.2 Smooth FM Croydon (col) 2 4 14km 93° 64 i
102.70m G Mercury FM Reigate (sur) 0.46 3.6 19km 163° 47 i
103.30v G London Greek Radio London NW/Alexandra Palace (col) 0.02 0.05 23km 28° 38 i
103.60v G Life FM Harlesden (col) 0.025 14km 12° 43 i
104.00m G BBC Southern Counties Radio Reigate (sur) 0.48 3.8 19km 163° 47 i
104.60m G BBC Southern Counties Radio Guildford (sur) 0.8 3 31km 227° 47 i
104.80v G BBC Southern Counties Radio Burton Down (wsu) 2 2 61km 203° 38 i
104.90m G XFM Crystal Palace (col) 1 3.9 14km 87° 61 i
105.40m G Magic 105.4 Croydon (col) 2 4 14km 93° 64 i
105.80m G Virgin FM Crystal Palace (col) 2 3.73 14km 87° 64 i
106.20m G Heart 106.2 Croydon (col) 2 4 14km 93° 64 i
106.60m G Time FM Slough/Industrial Estate (rea) 0.13 0.24 27km 297° 41 i
107.10v G Choice FM London NW/Alexandra Palace (col) 0.1 0.1 23km 28° 45 i
107.30m G Time FM (South London Radio) Lewisham/Bredgar (col) 0.1 0.8 19km 78° 35 i
107.80m G 107.8 Radio Jackie London-Kingston/Tolworth Tower (col) 0.08 0.8 4km 177° 59 i


program list

MHz Cty program transmitter Pdir Pmax Dist azi dBµV
98.50v G BBC Radio 1 Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
88.80v G BBC Radio 2 Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
91.00v G BBC Radio 3 Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
93.20v G BBC Radio 4 FM Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
94.90m G BBC London 94.9 Crystal Palace (col) 4 14km 87° 67 i
95.80m G Capital Radio Croydon (col) 4 14km 93° 67 i
100.60v G Classic FM Crystal Palace (col) 2 2 14km 87° 67 i
97.30m G LBC 97.3 Croydon (col) 4 14km 93° 67 i
102.20m G 102.2 Smooth FM Croydon (col) 2 4 14km 93° 64 i
106.20m G Heart 106.2 Croydon (col) 2 4 14km 93° 64 i
100.00m G Kiss FM Croydon (col) 2 4 14km 93° 64 i
105.40m G Magic 105.4 Croydon (col) 2 4 14km 93° 64 i
105.80m G Virgin FM Crystal Palace (col) 2 3.73 14km 87° 64 i
104.90m G XFM Crystal Palace (col) 1 3.9 14km 87° 61 i
107.80m G 107.8 Radio Jackie London-Kingston/Tolworth Tower (col) 0.08 0.8 4km 177° 59 i
95.40v G BBC R.Berkshire Windsor (rea) 0.5 24km 288° 53 i
96.40m G 96.4 The Eagle Guildford (sur) 3 3 31km 227° 52 i
101.40v G OnFM Hammersmith (col) 0.025 9km 25° 51# i
104.00m G BBC Southern Counties Radio Reigate (sur) 0.48 3.8 19km 163° 47 i
102.70m G Mercury FM Reigate (sur) 0.46 3.6 19km 163° 47 i
107.10v G Choice FM London NW/Alexandra Palace (col) 0.1 0.1 23km 28° 45 i
91.80v G Hayes FM London-Hayes/St Anselms Church (col) 0.025 14km 316° 45 i
89.60m G Southall Community Radio Southall/Windmill Business Centre (col) 0.013 0.05 11km 334° 44# i
103.60v G Life FM Harlesden (col) 0.025 14km 12° 43 i
94.30v G The Voice of Africa London-Plaistow (col) 0.025 25km 54° 41# i
106.60m G Time FM Slough/Industrial Estate (rea) 0.13 0.24 27km 297° 41 i
96.70m G BBC R.Kent Wrotham (knt) 0.5 8.7 41km 105° 38 i
103.30v G London Greek Radio London NW/Alexandra Palace (col) 0.02 0.05 23km 28° 38 i
96.30 G Big Blue Chelsea Football Club (col) 0.01 10km 43° 37 i
101.60m G KMFM Wrotham (knt) 0.2 0.4 41km 105° 35 i
107.30m G Time FM (South London Radio) Lewisham/Bredgar (col) 0.1 0.8 19km 78° 35 i

If you have cable internet you can get FM through that with a cable FM splitter and it sounds very good to me, you may need to retune all your channels
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=5126&C=5716&U=shop_FE27E
It may even work with the Ariel out socket on a sky box, again using an FM splitter, but I haven’t tried that.

Alan

Bit of tuner fetishist myself, and have owned many top-end tuners (Accuphase, Mcintosh, Tandberg, Yamaha, a few made in the UK:).

I've gone 100% internet radio via Squeezebox.

Truthfully, the tweaked and tuned Mac MR-77 and the big analogue Accuphase (T-100?) sound better IF the signal is good (actually the Tandberg 3001A was killer too, but it emitted a weird smell, and the buttons failed to inspire confidence). I may revisit and go through the hassle again...

Point is, if the stations you care about are online, it may be the way to fly.

For reference: I live in Santa Monica, a few miles from the sometimes spectacular KCRW. No complaints using the net, 90% of the time.

And for full disclosure - this is all into a Nait 2 into early Kans. It could well be the case that with a higher-end/more revealing system, the difference would have me pulling out the coax and antenna all over again.

Still wouldn't get me the BBC or stations in Lausanne, Amsterdam, etc:)

Sorry for the length, I'm frankly still shocked I've come to this, but there you go.

HTH

john

Darth

A big thanks for your list - which I've saved and printed. However, what does it all mean??:confused:

I only get the frequency of the radio station - what does the rest tell me??

Cheers

Nick

"what does it all mean??"

Its best to align it all up in Excel. However lets look at Radio 3 my favourite:-


90.30m G BBC Radio 3 Guildford (sur) 3 3 31km 227° 52 i
90.60v G BBC Radio 3 Kenley (col) 0.02 0.025 17km 130° 39 i
91.00v G BBC Radio 3 Crystal Palace (col) 4 4 14km 87° 70 i
91.30m G BBC Radio 3 Wrotham (knt) 250 250 41km 105° 65 i
91.80v G Hayes FM London-Hayes/St Anselms Church (col) 0.025 14km 316° 45 i
91.90v G BBC Radio 3 Mickleham (sur) 0.025 0.025 17km 192° 40

The last figure in each line shows the signal strength and the larger the better so in your case Crystal Palace on 91.00MHz has the probabilty of the strongest signal at 70dBµV followed by Wrotham on 91.30MHz at 65dBµV. I say probability as these figures take no account of topography.

The preceeding figure in each line gives the compass bearing to the transmitter so for Crystal Palace you get your compass out and point the aerial at 87° almost due East.

When I lived in SW20 I also pointed my aerial at Crystal Palace and got a very strong signal for my NAT02.

If you have bloody big buildings to the East and you get a poor signal then you can try the other transmitters such as Guildford in the West.

Have fun,

DV

DV Thank you for your patience and explanation. Before I decide whether to spend large sums on an aerial I'm taking my NAT01 to a fellow pfmer at the weekend. He has a decent aerial so I can see if I do really like the NAT sound with a good signal. I'm taking my Sansui TU-9900 as a competitor!

DV Thank you for your patience and explanation. Before I decide whether to spend large sums on an aerial I'm taking my NAT01 to a fellow pfmer at the weekend. He has a decent aerial so I can see if I do really like the NAT sound with a good signal. I'm taking my Sansui TU-9900 as a competitor!

I've never been able to get hold of one of those 9900s. Look forward to reading about your audition.

Steve

Darth,

The info you provided for exbrickie included the FM transmitter signal strength at his location. Can you say where this information comes from? I would like to know what the signal strength should be where I live - topography excluded.
Thanks
Mike

Does that mean you won't be selling your aerial?:D

Aerial still for sale.
WAF issue!
Mike

Not surprised - that size!! :D

Aerial still for sale.
WAF issue!
Mike

I know that feeling all too well http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54071

Darth,

The info you provided for exbrickie included the FM transmitter signal strength at his location. Can you say where this information comes from? I would like to know what the signal strength should be where I live - topography excluded.
Thanks
Mike

Mike, I have posted the link several times on PFM but peeps tend to comment that its difficult to use. Thats why I just produced the list above. Its a very good tool for those that can understand it. Its also a global tool so our friends across the 'pond' may find it useful.


http://fmscan.org/index.php

Enjoy!

DV

Darth,

Many thanks

Mike

DV


You need to stick your weblink in the reference section (inc your posting). This is helpful - if I manage to make sense of it! It sounds like I not only need a Galaxie for my NAT01 to sing but it might need pointing in different directions for different stations?!!:D

DV


You need to stick your weblink in the reference section (inc your posting). This is helpful - if I manage to make sense of it! It sounds like I not only need a Galaxie for my NAT01 to sing but it might need pointing in different directions for different stations?!!:D

Nick, trying to PM you on another matter but your inbox is full

Deserter

The bigger the Galaxie, the more the need for a rotator, as it "points."

I'd keep the TU9900 if I were you. It was never "just" a top flight receiver, it was also one of the best *sounding* tuners ever made (faithful to the source sound, with no spitchiness or funny stereo effects which plague lesser models). If the 01 sounds different to the 9900, I'd suspect the former, not the Sansui in this instance, that is, if you want to hear the radio stations as transmitted. Hope the transmitted stations are good enough quality to show what the 9900 can really do.