Anybody familiar with it?
http://www.soundstagedirect.com/Discwasher-D4%20Vinyl-Record-Cleaner.shtml

Is it "safe"to use it? Because it seems very cheap compared to a real record cleaner.

It will be less effective than a vacuum type system which will suck the dirt out of the bottom of the grooves but certainly "safe".

I've used one for about 20 years and find it works very well - much better than the carbon fibre brushes I have used (as it also lifts the dust up).

As steve67 states, it's nothing like as good as a vacuum type - but then one wouldn't expect it to be.

Anybody familiar with it?
http://www.soundstagedirect.com/Discwasher-D4%20Vinyl-Record-Cleaner.shtml

Is it "safe"to use it? Because it seems very cheap compared to a real record cleaner.

I've sold hundreds of them and they are quite effective and safe if you observe the instructions.

anyone have a view on using this one (just the solution really) in conjunction with a diy vacuum machine?

I've sold hundreds of them and they are quite effective and safe if you observe the instructions.
Do you still sell them and do you ship outside of the UK? :)

anyone have a view on using this one (just the solution really) in conjunction with a diy vacuum machine?

A bottle of solution was somewhere around £2.95 for a small bottle, so it might be cheaper to buy new LPs than to thoroughly soak a few with the D4 fluid.

Do you still sell them and do you ship outside of the UK? :)

Unfortunately not, I haven't seen them for years. They were very popular at this time of the year for Christmas pressies.

so you re-use this stuff/ what with all the gumpf already?

There's a guy I bought some off via e-bay in the states, packaging has changed from red to black but seemed to work ok with my original discwasher brush.

Used in conjuction with the brush it seems like all you're doing is pushing the dirt into the groove. Better to use some dish detergent with a wet sponge. Thoroughly clean the record and then rinse it well with cool tap water and dry with a clean cloth, drying the label first, when done, dry the label and record with a hair dryer to make sure it's thoroughly dry. Works a treat for me. The tap water rinses all the dirt away. Records come out clean and sound wonderful. No expensive, noisy machines and fancy fluids.

Used in conjuction with the brush it seems like all you're doing is pushing the dirt into the groove. Better to use some dish detergent with a wet sponge. Thoroughly clean the record and then rinse it well with cool tap water and dry with a clean cloth, drying the label first, when done, dry the label and record with a hair dryer to make sure it's thoroughly dry. Works a treat for me. The tap water rinses all the dirt away. Records come out clean and sound wonderful. No expensive, noisy machines and fancy fluids.

But won't normal water leave lime?! :o

I'd use water from a jug filter after the tap water rinse.

Ordinary washing up liquid contains salt and de-greasing agents which may effect the vinyl would think a soft soap type of detergent would be better.

Get yourself a Knosti disco antistat. Very effective and about a tenth the price of a vacuum type.

Distilled water with Isopropyl Alcohol in a ratio of 10x1 is the stuff to use.

I'm just researching this now, as I picked up a Knosti off a member here. Think I'm going for 4 parts disilled water to 1 part IPA plus a couple of drops of Kodak Photo-Flo (as a wetting agent).

Richard

D4 is good for surface crap. Mine is 25 years old and still going strong.