View Full Version : ESL porn by popular request!


stevec67
24-10-09, 12:34 PM
Here you go. Now work out how the hell I do anything in my lounge other than listen to music.

Oh, hang on, I don't need to.:D

http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo37/batteredoldsupersport/ESL57s/

spet0114
24-10-09, 12:48 PM
"Dear God! - No, before you ask..."

That was my girlfriend's reaction! :)

lexi
24-10-09, 01:01 PM
Proper listening devices. Saves you buying a Sub.

long-time-dead
24-10-09, 01:04 PM
... or headphones !

Robert
24-10-09, 01:07 PM
WRT positioning, avoid all the popular rules and play it entirely by ear.
You'll find that they behave quite unlike a conventional box speaker so just experiment.

They look excellent.

Play some Beatles mono remasters on them asap :)

stevec67
24-10-09, 02:00 PM
"Dear God! - No, before you ask..."

That was my girlfriend's reaction! :)

No, really? I must say I'm surprised, I would have thought most girlfriends would have gone for it immediately.;);)

Thanks for the advice Robert, I'm listening now and they are sensational pulled into the room 1/3 way. I'm about 2m from each, the small matter of a wall prevents me getting further back. I can't have them lengthways, the room's too small.

As for girlfriends, well, maybe there's a reason why I'm single.;) It's not all bad when I can listen to stuff like this. I've never heard speakers this open since I heard a pair of huge TLs in Grenoble, France, 10 yrs ago. They were 300,000 FF (30k)!

trancera
24-10-09, 04:26 PM
No problem at all. Hide them behind the curtains when you have girls come to stay, they still let the light come thru ;)

stevec67
24-10-09, 04:32 PM
Good idea Trancera. I'm sure they will never know.;)

TBH given the number of women I get calling I could afford to put the 57s in the back garden when they call.:(

lindsayt
24-10-09, 05:08 PM
Great result Steve. They look very nice in the photos.

Bet you didn't pay a huge amount for them either. You've just won the pfm best value high-end speakers award.

What speakers were you using before, and is there any aspect of the performance of the old speakers that you prefer?

stevec67
24-10-09, 05:38 PM
Dunno about "not a huge amount", they certainly cost enough:o. That said if you reckon on a decent set of ESL57s costing 400 up, then if I got 2 sets plus a frame, I think I paid the right sort of sum. Equally, in the context of "high end", I got them for nowt.:)

My old speakers are QLN Prestige floorstanders, with an external XO. Ironically I bought them from the same shop, as ex dem, with a damaged corner. The shop had just fallen out with the UK distributor, who had gone bust, so I got them for a song (as in 400 for a set of 2k speakers!)

What do the old ones do better? Easy. Rock and roll, dance music, anything with a "bump-thump" to it. That said the ESLs are so sensational on any acoustic music that I can forgive the lack of bass drive. They don't lack bass *response*, they do go deep, they just don't punch you like cabinet speakers can.

I don't often listen to classical music, but I've got a disc of Moeran's string quartets playing just now and it really is amazing. Shut your eyes and the musicians are sitting just behind the back wall. Yes, behind. ESLs do that, don't ask me why or how. My 63s were the same.

Robert
24-10-09, 05:57 PM
Steve, how are you driving them?

Jonathan Ribee
24-10-09, 06:00 PM
NICE!

(any chance of a look at the back?)

Cheers,
Jonathan

stevec67
24-10-09, 06:13 PM
(any chance of a look at the back?)

Cheers,
Jonathan
Weirdo.;)
:p:p

I'll post up some pics in the morning.:)

Robert, believe it or not a Yaqin MC10, a Chinese EL34. It's a lovely amp and sounds sensational on both these and my conventional speakers (still in the room, just lost somewhere!)

stevec67
24-10-09, 06:27 PM
Bedtime now gents.
Goodnight all, I'll have Jonathan's hardcore rear-view photes available then so he can have a good look:o:D.

The dirty old man.;):p


They still sound fab.:cool:

graham55
25-10-09, 01:45 AM
Steve, welcome to the club!

They look very good indeed.

Best regards.

Graham

stevec67
25-10-09, 04:26 AM
(nudge nudge, wink wink) Hardcore rear view shots added for Jonathan. ;-)

You should get it on the original linky, I just added to the album.

Theres a Quad service label on the lower set. 20 years old but better than nothing.

stevec67
25-10-09, 04:31 AM
BTW, joking aside and when I've finished pulling JRs leg, when you look at them arranged like this it would be a VERY simple affair to double up, as I'm sure he is thinking. Full dimensioned sketches on request, the frames could be knocked up in an hour by a cackhanded welder (I suspect mine were, to say these are factory items the welding is absolutely crap. I'm no timeserved coded TIG boy but I can weld better than this and even if I can't I have the good sense to disguise my shame with the application of a grinder.) The wood is simply a hardwood plank, you could of course use ply if you preferred.

stevec67
25-10-09, 04:33 AM
Oh, and yes I am aware the wiring is horrible. I'll do a better job soon, I just wanted them running.

trancera
25-10-09, 04:47 AM
Wait on, what a con, i can spot some big orrible bass bins hidden behind those ESLs :o

stevec67
25-10-09, 05:59 AM
Busted!:D
Those are my QLNs, I don't have anywhere else for them just now so they can stay, albeit no longer hooked up. I may/will keep them for blasting duties when the need for AC/DC takes me. If I'm going to annoy the neighbours then I want to do it without worrying about blowing a panel.:o

Jowcol
25-10-09, 06:43 AM
BTW, joking aside and when I've finished pulling JRs leg, when you look at them arranged like this it would be a VERY simple affair to double up, as I'm sure he is thinking. Full dimensioned sketches on request, the frames could be knocked up in an hour by a cackhanded welder (I suspect mine were, to say these are factory items the welding is absolutely crap. I'm no timeserved coded TIG boy but I can weld better than this and even if I can't I have the good sense to disguise my shame with the application of a grinder.) The wood is simply a hardwood plank, you could of course use ply if you preferred.

Go easy with the criticism of Quad's welding. AFAIK the factory only supplied a drawing, never the finished product.
I had stacked 57's for only a short time since I just couldn't get back far enough from them.
I now have 989's. I'm looking to move house, but now realize that English houses (other than country mansions) are really not designed to accept hifi. I've looked at hundreds of houses online, none have the 'right' shape of room.

Jonathan Ribee
25-10-09, 07:53 AM
Thanks Steve!

Original Quad factory stacked diagram - a "suggested serving" as Jowcol says..

http://www.geocities.com/drquad@pacbell.net/stackedquads1.jpg

Jonathan Ribee
25-10-09, 07:59 AM
Farrimond article linked to on the bottom of enclosed page is interesting...


http://www.quadesl.org/Hard_Core/StackedQuads/stackedquads.html

stevec67
02-11-09, 08:31 AM
Thanks JR!

martin clark
02-11-09, 08:41 AM
Lovely, Steve.

Hmm. I suddenly find that I do have space for such things...

stevec67
02-11-09, 03:37 PM
If you can remotely cram them in the room they are sensational. Having said they don't do bump-thump rock & roll I'm just sitting listening to a bit of Giant Sand at moderate volumes and one section actually made me jump. No box speaker is remotely as fast, and they go loud enough at 11 o'clock on the volume pot of my EL34 amp. 12 o'c is loud enough for anyone and I'm not going there until I get some sort of protection on the things, say the OneThing protection circuit.

They really really do not fit in my house, but I don't care!

Tim Groves
06-11-09, 12:50 PM
Here you go. Now work out how the hell I do anything in my lounge other than listen to music.

Oh, hang on, I don't need to.:D

http://s359.photobucket.com/albums/oo37/batteredoldsupersport/ESL57s/

that's definately "one for the bank"

Zombie
06-11-09, 01:11 PM
Now, there's a guy in control of his own life! Great! have 63s myself and I told a potential gf that she doens't have to like me, but the speakers. Hehe.
Anyway, is Moeran the English composer? 1900s? Didn't he do songs as well? Been looking for it, do you have any ref to his catalogue?
Cheers

stevec67
06-11-09, 03:04 PM
Now, there's a guy in control of his own life!

Dunno if I'd go *that* far.;):rolleyes:


Anyway, is Moeran the English composer? 1900s? Didn't he do songs as well? Been looking for it, do you have any ref to his catalogue?
Cheers

Dead right, impressive knowledge of an obscure composer.:) He has done songs and was heavily influenced by English folk music. The CD I have refers to his use of 6/8, 3/4 and 7/8 time signatures which are apparently of folk music origin.

I heard his work on the radio in Eire on hols years ago, I was with friends who didn't like to rise before about 9 or 10 so I was in the habit of setting an alarm for sunrise (October so reasonable) and going exploring with a camera. One day the radio played this fantastic music so I stayed until they announced the title: Moeran's string quartet in A something. I tracked it down in a record shop where I came up with what I still think is my best musical joke:

Me:Hello, have you anything by a composer called Moran?
Salesman: Interesting request, I'll have a look...Oh, I have Moeran, with an "E". He's on Naxos, there isn't a huge catalogue.
Me: OK, what is there?
SM:Hmm, yes, this CD has String Quartet in E flat major, String Quartet in A Minor, String Trio in G major.
Me: (deadpan) Oh, a trio? Did someone ring in sick that day?
:D sniggers all round.:D

So, Naxos 8.554079, costs (or did) the princely sum of a fiver. I recommend it. Dunno what else is out there, as i say it's not my usual thing but a feature of a fantastic hifi is that you often appreciate music that you otherwise wouldn't. Girls Aloud excepted.:rolleyes:

Zombie
07-11-09, 03:40 AM
Great Steve! Sounds like how I discovered the Polish composer Gorecki. I listen to a history program and a Gorecki symphony was running in the background.
Anyway, thanks for the pointer to Moeran on Naxos.

stevec67
07-11-09, 11:47 AM
I've finally bitten the bullet and decided to turn the wick up a bit. Will they go loud? Oh yes. Loud enough for me and probably a little louder than my neighbours would like.:D

Now I'm no longer afraid of blowing them up I'll give them some use. I've also discovered that yes, they really *can* do rock and roll, if asked.:cool:

Jonathan Ribee
07-11-09, 07:49 PM
Excellent new Steve. We'll have to check out your stacked ones and my ordinary ones (and the 989s) - we can have a chat at Tony's next weekend. I think I can just fit two amplifiers in a 911. (Didn't think about that when I suggested the meet, opps!)

Bagga
07-11-09, 11:45 PM
Thank you so much for posting these pictures! I can't wait to show my wife, so that she can appreciate how small and insignificant my recently acquired KEF 105/1s are by comparison!

I am already working with the sales line that the castors enable them to be pushed back to the wall when not in use, "making them almost invisble"??. :-)

..next stop is off to Wilmslow audio to get the crossover recapped...shhhhhh!

ewemon
08-11-09, 01:47 AM
Thank you so much for posting these pictures! I can't wait to show my wife, so that she can appreciate how small and insignificant my recently acquired KEF 105/1s are by comparison!

I am already working with the sales line that the castors enable them to be pushed back to the wall when not in use, "making them almost invisble"??. :-)

..next stop is off to Wilmslow audio to get the crossover recapped...shhhhhh!

Soon to be divorced I think. If you can convice her you are a better man than me. As I couldn't convince mine:D

starbuck
08-11-09, 02:49 AM
Whatever you do, get it in writing - I have now had the following laminated:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s229/goomer_2007/NADC340.jpg

(happy owner of ESL63/SW63 subs in a 13.5' square-ish room)

Bagga
09-11-09, 09:15 AM
Top (wife-)management skills I must say!

I am afraid that I followed the slightly more underhand method of expressing surprise when I picked up the KEF 105s: "I didn't quite realise they were THAT BIG!?" ..that kind of thing!

I have also had to resort to a lot of pre-emptive bribery over many years and covering untold BLING for Mrs Bagga! ..so far so good!

..and "those castors - fabulous! - see how the speakers push right back against the wall!" Genius KEF design! :-)

irons1965
09-11-09, 09:34 AM
Dunno if I'd go *that* far.;):rolleyes:



Dead right, impressive knowledge of an obscure composer.:) He has done songs and was heavily influenced by English folk music. The CD I have refers to his use of 6/8, 3/4 and 7/8 time signatures which are apparently of folk music origin.

I heard his work on the radio in Eire on hols years ago, I was with friends who didn't like to rise before about 9 or 10 so I was in the habit of setting an alarm for sunrise (October so reasonable) and going exploring with a camera. One day the radio played this fantastic music so I stayed until they announced the title: Moeran's string quartet in A something. I tracked it down in a record shop where I came up with what I still think is my best musical joke:

Me:Hello, have you anything by a composer called Moran?
Salesman: Interesting request, I'll have a look...Oh, I have Moeran, with an "E". He's on Naxos, there isn't a huge catalogue.
Me: OK, what is there?
SM:Hmm, yes, this CD has String Quartet in E flat major, String Quartet in A Minor, String Trio in G major.
Me: (deadpan) Oh, a trio? Did someone ring in sick that day?
:D sniggers all round.:D

So, Naxos 8.554079, costs (or did) the princely sum of a fiver. I recommend it. Dunno what else is out there, as i say it's not my usual thing but a feature of a fantastic hifi is that you often appreciate music that you otherwise wouldn't. Girls Aloud excepted.:rolleyes:

Steve if you enjoy Moeran, try some Gerald Finzi or even Hamilton Harty both really underated early- mid 20th Century pastoral composers!

duncan
09-11-09, 11:46 AM
A good case can be made for the Moeran symphony as the greatest English* symphony of the thirties. Walton or Vaughan-Williams symphonies of the time are the best comparisons, all three greatly influenced by Sibelius of course (unfortunately Moeran had a similar fondness for the booze). Free download here (http://www.moeran.com/Audio/Symphony.html) (terrible recording of amateur orchestra but gives you a general idea of how it goes). There was a good performance at the Proms this year which is available via the torrents, unfortunately the excellent Chandos CD seems to be out of print currently.

*I'm not surprised you heard him in Ireland, Moeran was one of those Englishmen who loved to play up his celtic roots.