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Old 26-04-12, 04:30 AM
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There is a lot of truth in this. I've got a very expensive system that sounds very good. (WTA GTA/32.5 Hicap/mono 110s/ Neat Ultimatums) However I recently put together a Sony DD/Creek/Kef system for 200 in another room. I really enjoy it partly because 'it' doesn't cross my mind when I put a record on. It's all about the music, nothing else. I find myself playing it rather than the posh one.
I totally, agree.

Irrespective of the hifi, I never realised how important the room was until I visited a friend's home in the Wicklow Hills with paved floors et al and put Kind of Blue on the ghetto blaster. Astonishing sound.
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Old 26-04-12, 04:44 AM
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I don't think it is the room. I bought the Sony for 75 to find out what the DD thing was about. I put it on a Lack table and plugged it in in place of my LP12, Ekos, Akiva, Lingo 2, Mana Ref and sure enough it was not quite as good. Everything changed after that.
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Old 26-04-12, 04:49 AM
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mvv - scuse' my ignorance what's the 'dd' you mention?
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Old 26-04-12, 04:50 AM
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mvv - scuse' my ignorance what's the 'dd' you mention?
Sorry Direct Drive turntable. There was a kerfuffle about them when Richard Dunn was about these parts.
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Old 26-04-12, 04:53 AM
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gotcha'...cheers.
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Old 26-04-12, 08:16 AM
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I don't think it is the room.
It was. The acoustics are part of the sound.
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Old 26-04-12, 03:29 PM
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Group E

Technically competent long time audiophiles who recognise marketing foo but remain open minded enough to trust their ears and have discovered that all amplifiers do not sound the same and that some basically adequate cables do in fact sound different too

Group F

Technically competent but closed minded (and often voiciferously so) individuals who are unwilling to trust their own ears or accept that others can hear things that they can't - very similar to Group A
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Old 26-04-12, 03:42 PM
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Old 26-04-12, 03:44 PM
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It was. The acoustics are part of the sound.
Sorry of course. What with me being here and you not being here you are bound to be right. I apologise for my stupidity.
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Old 26-04-12, 04:01 PM
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The 'all the science is finished' argument is ultimately a little nonsensical. You could say the same about automotive engineering; we are often driving round in 19th Century engineering concepts, but with 21st Century improvements.
Indeed. Will 'all the science' ever be finished? If yes, not soon.
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Old 26-04-12, 04:29 PM
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I don't think it is the room. I bought the Sony for 75 to find out what the DD thing was about. I put it on a Lack table and plugged it in in place of my LP12, Ekos, Akiva, Lingo 2, Mana Ref and sure enough it was not quite as good. Everything changed after that.
Reminds me of a friend of mine who used to enjoy fine cars. He then borrowed an old 3 series and liked it so much he kept it. He still enjoys his driving and realised he didn't need to spend 100K on his cars any more. Me, I'd take the Maserati as I like what they do.

Trouble with hifi is that too many people try to defend what they have or what they think. Your not quite as good is another man's night and day. You're both right.

One of the things that I quite like about the hifi side of listening to music is the concept of trying to reach for a greater performance. There's something very pointless but very satisfying about making something better. Of course it is much easier to go through life accepting what's thrust in front of you and not being particularly discerning, but whats the fun in that?
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Old 26-04-12, 04:37 PM
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Sorry of course. What with me being here and you not being here you are bound to be right. I apologise for my stupidity.
why did you buy an LP12?
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Old 27-04-12, 01:18 AM
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The LP12 is a very nice sounding TT. Linn didn't sell 10,000+ of them because they look good.
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Old 27-04-12, 02:06 AM
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why did you buy an LP12?
I was young and beginning my life's quest and it sounded lovely.
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Old 27-04-12, 02:20 AM
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Group A:

Technically sophisticated long time audiophiles who know foo when the hear it. Some of these individuals are Alpha males type personalities and won't let any foo go unchallenged.
Chuckle. I'm not sure I'd classify OCD nerdery as "Alpha male" :-)
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