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Old 14-12-16, 07:25 AM
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Was reading about this amp:
https://benchmarkmedia.com/products/...ower-amplifier

Which has 3 different gain settings with the aim of optimising the overall gain structure of your system. A very useful feature! Is it my imagination or did you say at one point that the VFET amps would have variable gain to ensure optimal gain when working with the FDAC? If I didn't dream that, is it still the plan?
I think it is has been said several times that the FDAC will be gain matched with the VFET and Miniamps. Guess it is obvious since John is making both

It is only relevant if you are mixing brands.
Have you bye the way looked at the the new DAC 3's HYBRID GAIN CONTROL which sounds interesting. Not sure if it is only marketing.
https://benchmarkmedia.com/collectio...udio-converter
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Old 14-12-16, 08:06 AM
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Don't think the benchmark dac3 helps in this context.

(From the description) The digital signal never passes through the analogue gain control so, there is no change in analogue gain for digital signals and it plays no part in the digital gain structure
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Old 14-12-16, 09:33 AM
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Don't think the benchmark dac3 helps in this context.

(From the description) The digital signal never passes through the analogue gain control so, there is no change in analogue gain for digital signals and it plays no part in the digital gain structure
The benchmark was not my point

It was that FDAC and VFET/mini amps will be gain matched.
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Old 14-12-16, 11:30 AM
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What was the point about the benchmark then?
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Old 14-12-16, 11:52 AM
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What was the point about the benchmark then?
They have gain control in both their amps and DACS and OPs link was to Benchmark amps.
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Old 14-12-16, 04:51 PM
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They have gain control in both their amps and DACS and OPs link was to Benchmark amps.
Interestingly, speaking of Benchmark, they are also using SMPS in both their latest amps and DACs...

https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/app...power-supplies

Not a techie but seems reasonable, contrary to generally accepted theory.

Thoughts?
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Old 15-12-16, 12:16 AM
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Sibbers

Buy a DAC.

You know the rules of sod's law - the second you buy a DAC, the mdac2 will be available and you won't have needed to buy an intermediary DAC.

This will be good for all of us: as soon as you buy a DAC, the mdac 2 will be available

I've bought already 3 (2x Matrix, 1 TEAC); didn't help at all :-(
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Old 15-12-16, 02:32 AM
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Interestingly, speaking of Benchmark, they are also using SMPS in both their latest amps and DACs...

https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/app...power-supplies

Not a techie but seems reasonable, contrary to generally accepted theory.

Thoughts?
Linn (and others) have been using SMPSs in their streamers / amps for years to extremely good effect.
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Old 15-12-16, 02:56 AM
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I've bought already 3 (2x Matrix, 1 TEAC); didn't help at all :-(
Maybe we should try other forms of superstition? Anyone good with tea leaves?
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Old 15-12-16, 03:18 AM
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Interestingly, speaking of Benchmark, they are also using SMPS in both their latest amps and DACs...

https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/app...power-supplies

Not a techie but seems reasonable, contrary to generally accepted theory.

Thoughts?
Covered recently on the Mytek Brooklyn thread. Take away the mythology and what's left? Building electronics using traditional methods, like thatching roofs?
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Old 15-12-16, 04:49 AM
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I've bought already 3 (2x Matrix, 1 TEAC); didn't help at all :-(
I've heard this is a very good DAC for the money if you need something in the meantime; Gustard X20

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01...J42X073JFZ8FMH
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Old 15-12-16, 04:52 AM
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Linn (and others) have been using SMPSs in their streamers / amps for years to extremely good effect.
Agreed.....but I thought the main reason for Linn's adoption of SMPS decades ago was to save costs (increase profits) and to get a reliable source, I believe their torroid supplier went out of business around the same time....am I right in thinking this? Also I don't think Naim ever used SMPS. I wonder why?
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Old 15-12-16, 04:59 AM
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I've heard this is a very good DAC for the money if you need something in the meantime; Gustard X20

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01...J42X073JFZ8FMH
This seems to have many of the features of the MDAC2... Looks nicely built too....Has anyone compared it to the MDAC or the new Audiolab MDAC2, cost wise its in the same ballpark?
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Old 15-12-16, 05:05 AM
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Re smps

The video is worth a view. Thought provoking......

https://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/app...lies-are-noisy
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Old 15-12-16, 05:09 AM
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Agreed.....but I thought the main reason for Linn's adoption of SMPS decades ago was to save costs (increase profits) and to get a reliable source, I believe their torroid supplier went out of business around the same time....am I right in thinking this? Also I don't think Naim ever used SMPS. I wonder why?
Naim !?? Wash your mouth out!
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