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Old 21-02-17, 12:06 AM
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I can remember with equal enthusiasm my early systems
With cheap Japanese amplifier and home made speakers.
Most of us have progressed through all manner of routes to get where we are now.
Wherever anyone is, it's the journey and the music that matter more than whatever you are currently thinking of upgrading.
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Old 21-02-17, 02:01 AM
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Nice pics Gromit and Ross, almost makes me want to get back into vinyl again!
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Old 21-02-17, 02:16 AM
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That's a difficult topic..
First of all Ross took the time to answer my questions in detail & friendly manner, which I find rather nice.
2nd..it is true not all of us can afford such, incl. me, but even then I'm quite happy if I can have an experience from comparison of various expensive items,
IF I can afford to get merely ONE of those.
So, in short, without the XP I'm dependend on educated guess, and here I have to say I do prefer an experience and am happy if somone is willing to share.

A hobby where a certain amount of money is involved always is at risk of getting some emotional echo, that's human nature.
The counterside is, if someone just has the means, no matter why, as a fact,
why should he not be able to share with the same passion like the rest of us ?

Generally I try to keep the level and the passion apart from another & even if I can 'only' use a Logic DM 101 table and a Mission 774 arm,
I find certain experiences about higher class MCs simply interesting, or, for that matter how a Kuzma cardanic compares to an Ekos...how should I compare all this myself ?

The inverted role would be: 'I don't talk to poor guys like you' , bzw..
And as long as such attitude is not the case I don't think it is adequate to put fences up from a certain level on.
Where should those fences be ? A Benz LP ? Simon has one, too...
A PU7..? I'm happy someone is buying handcrafted things from a nice one-man manufacturer like J7.
Great to have his XP around, but I'm not sure he could make it from guys like me alone who need an Ekos rewired once in a decade..?

A little tolerance is necessary I think..

We share a passion, let's simply keep it like that.
It was a fun comment wasn't it? Didn't the suggestion of a collection to help out the needy mean it was a bit of fun?
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Old 21-02-17, 04:06 AM
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Here's my office Planar 3, on Rega wall support, complete with genuine anaglypta wall paper
Great to see a real Rega with the right arm too!
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Old 21-02-17, 06:33 AM
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Sorry if I got it wrong,,,anyways, it was late..

...but this is a picture thread,,,so here is a picture:

http://prntscr.com/ebkfdb

http://prntscr.com/ebkho7

My new project.
I screwed a Logic DM101 on a Mission arm to the back of my Zyx Yatra.

Wild guess is that the Logic as well as the 774 has a few tricks up it's sleeves.
The Millenium Falcon shaped part under the platter and TA for examle is a massive 18mm alloy piece.
Practically that's kind of a Kore from a time when Linn wasn't even dreaming of such.

Plan is to set it up perfectly and then have internal shootouts against LP12 & DPS and see what happens..
Cosmetically this is going to remain in the authentic state speaking of it's age incl. all nicks and dents.

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Old 21-02-17, 08:19 AM
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Assuming it goes round at the right speed, which is far from a given with a DM101, it is a very good deck indeed aside from the paint falling off. Yours looks like a late one with the electronic speed control (I think Les may have designed that), my experience is with the earlier model with the red switch. Does yours have the big centre mass spring?
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Old 21-02-17, 10:05 AM
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I had a DM101 with the red button for several years with the original Ittock tonearm I eventually swopped the motor for an Origin Live DC motor the combination was quite good.
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Old 21-02-17, 11:53 AM
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Ross, nice deck and arm I approve.
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Old 21-02-17, 12:48 PM
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Assuming it goes round at the right speed, which is far from a given with a DM101, it is a very good deck indeed aside from the paint falling off. Yours looks like a late one with the electronic speed control (I think Les may have designed that), my experience is with the earlier model with the red switch. Does yours have the big centre mass spring?
Yes, mine has the centre mass spring & it being the 'electronic' model, it seems quite rare from what I've been told and seen.
You put your finger spot on at it's weak spot Tony, which I think will be the speed stability.
If that is 1 big weak spot in 1 place, that's on the other hand an advantage compared to having to deal with 4 issues in different places,
so if it turns out good enough apart from the speed, there might be some solution for that..

For now I expect no bigger issues though as the seller from PFM gave the deck to J7@ Audio Origami and Johnny replaced capacitors in the PS...repairing it and also did replace some lighty worn part in the centre bearing, so, apart from the admittedly not representative state, the deck should be pretty fine mechanically and electrically now.

Les possibly did the electronics you say..?
Amazing...the hifi world seems a very small playground at times..

Apart from Les, there's a second background story to this deck I like a lot.
The arm that was available with the deck by then was called Logic Datum.
The top model of that arm was the Datum S...roughly about 3 times as expensive, and produced at Syrinx (hence S)
Syrinx being the manufacturer where J7 once started his career.

When Syrinx went bust, the guy behind Maticore took the DNA of the Datum and develloped it further up the TA evolution ladder,
that was the Maticore Magician.

The up to now probably most advanced and best design from these roots being J7's PU7.

It's correct the deck is not very representable & may look to some as if I just pulled it from the garbage somewere,,,
but at a second, closer look it's quite impressive from the construction and the sheer physical presence.

Mark had it spot on right...I'm far from the photographic skills some around here have,,maybe I'll get a few more pleasing shots arranged at a later point.

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Old 21-02-17, 12:52 PM
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I had a DM101 with the red button for several years with the original Ittock tonearm I eventually swopped the motor for an Origin Live DC motor the combination was quite good.
...so far to my illusion I could be the first with a DC Logic at some point..
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Old 21-02-17, 08:26 PM
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It was a fun comment wasn't it? Didn't the suggestion of a collection to help out the needy mean it was a bit of fun?
That was precisely the spirit in which it was intended. I thought it was obvious, but perhaps not.

That being said, I am really curious about why Ross ditched the viella.
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Old 21-02-17, 08:34 PM
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That being said, I am really curious about why Ross ditched the viella.
I thought I had already answered that question here and here.
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Old 21-02-17, 09:49 PM
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Old 21-02-17, 09:53 PM
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Old 21-02-17, 10:04 PM
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