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Old 14-02-17, 06:15 AM
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Mqa will get their revenue from tiny portions of streaming income.
Did you read the whole article? MQA will get paid at every stage , including the production and reproduction equipment.
I've only owned a Linn turntable, which I'm sure would sound better anyway, but the criticism makes sense, if people believe MQA is better, but then I always believed music sounded better without Dolby.
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Old 14-02-17, 06:17 AM
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Did you read the whole article? MQA will get paid at every stage of music production, including the production and reproduction equipment.
I've only owned a Linn turntable, which I'm sure would sound better anyway, but the criticism makes sense, if people believe MQA is better, but then I always believed music sounded better without Dolby.
In what setup did you listen to MQA music?
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Old 14-02-17, 06:21 AM
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I did yes and I think you and the writer are misinformed about MQA 'getting paid at every stage'.
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Old 14-02-17, 06:27 AM
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I did yes and I think you and the writer are misinformed about MQA 'getting paid at every stage'.
You are then saying the article is factually wrong.
I refer to Dolby because I'm sure the manufacturers would have to pay royalties, just to put Dolby on their cassette recorders.
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Old 14-02-17, 06:35 AM
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Hi, I suspect Linn employees like most of us worry about job security, MQA streaming might impact there model of music label and streamer of high definition downloads. Linn challenge is how to maintain income as streaming becomes more quality competitive.
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Old 14-02-17, 06:37 AM
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I did yes and I think you and the writer are misinformed about MQA 'getting paid at every stage'.
You think... And I have feedback from inside industry and there are costs involved if you want to have MQA hardware support on your streamer. It will maybe not a problem for big companies like audioquest, but it is different story for small producers.
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Old 14-02-17, 06:40 AM
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You think... And I have feedback from inside industry and there are costs involved if you want to have MQA hardware support on your streamer. It will maybe not a problem for big companies like audioquest, but it is different story for small producers.
Mytek can hardly be considered a big company and they were the first to market (other than Meridian).
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Old 14-02-17, 06:45 AM
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Hi, I suspect Linn employees like most of us worry about job security, MQA streaming might impact there model of music label and streamer of high definition downloads. Linn challenge is how to maintain income as streaming becomes more quality competitive.
True, but it does not mean that they are wrong. We got used to mp3 flac and other denser formats to be free. Meridian cleverly found the loophole, gave us better quality with similar file size... but there is a catch: at the end of the day it is not for free.
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Old 14-02-17, 07:09 AM
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OK. Few comments to add.

1) Any programmer who understands 'C' and the relevant processes is welcome to DIY versions, either direct from their own coding or via basing them on the demos I did. Indeed, it would be good if more than one person had a go to reduce the chance of a coding error altering the results un-noticed.

2) For years now I've only used RISC OS and Linux. So any programs I do will be developed for them. As is my norm, I will then make the source code available, but someone else would need to port or convert them for Windows or Macs. I've not used either for a long time.

3) I'll put this on my 'to do list' but no idea when it'll get to the top. Probably when I get bored with something else and decide I want to find out the results. :-)

Once done, anyone who wants can use the progam to start with a 'clean' high rez high sample rate 24 bit file and generate shaped or bitfrozen example they can listen to and/or try flaccing to see the change in filesize. If that's useful, help yourself. :-)
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Old 14-02-17, 07:54 AM
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Mytek can hardly be considered a big company and they were the first to market (other than Meridian).
Mytek is very much involved in promotion of MQA since early days..
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Old 14-02-17, 08:07 AM
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Mytek is very much involved in promotion of MQA since early days..
Naturally.

But the question is if MQA is as costly as some imply how were they able to do it?
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Old 14-02-17, 08:13 AM
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Naturally.

But the question is if MQA is as costly as some imply how were they able to do it?
I'm sure it's paid for on a royalty basis, so it's only costly if they sell a lot of units, but it will be very profitable to the owners of the MQA patent if it become the Hi-Rez of choice.
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Old 14-02-17, 08:36 AM
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But the question is if MQA is as costly as some imply how were they able to do it?
There will always be players who bet the house on the unpopular horse, in the hope that it comes in against the odds.
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Old 14-02-17, 08:38 AM
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I'm sure it's paid for on a royalty basis, so it's only costly if they sell a lot of units, but it will be very profitable to the owners of the MQA patent if it become the Hi-Rez of choice.
Do you have a rough idea about the fees paid per unit?
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Old 14-02-17, 08:40 AM
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There will always be players who bet the house on the unpopular horse, in the hope that it comes in against the odds.
How much are the fees involved exactly?
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