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Old 19-03-12, 10:57 AM
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Not in answer to your query, but related to it, you might want to read posts 260-265 of http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/s...82#post1576082
Hi Simon

Thanks for the link.

Normally, XLR to XLR or RCA to RCA is best.

But, for example, my DacMagic sounds better,IMO, XLR to RCA as the output goes to the XLR terminals first then, via additional components, to RCA.

I used pin1 shield, pin2 +Audio and pin3 unconnected (floating).

Obviously, you don't get the benefit of a 'full' balanced output but you do bypass any additional components which may/can improve SQ.

If the M-DAC output is the same as mentioned above it may be worth trying.

Just looking for feedback as I would need to rearrange my kit to try this and no point if unlikely to improve (the already excellent) SQ.
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Old 19-03-12, 11:06 AM
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Apparently the Dacmagic has extra components in the signal path when using the rca's, that would be one reason they sound different.
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Old 19-03-12, 11:06 AM
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Btw. not better in my system :-)
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Old 19-03-12, 11:42 AM
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Apparently the Dacmagic has extra components in the signal path when using the rca's, that would be one reason they sound different.
You have used the term 'extra components' vs my 'additional components'.

Not sure which is correct but basically the same imo.
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Old 19-03-12, 11:47 AM
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Btw. not better in my system :-)
Try changing the phase and/or filter.
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Old 19-03-12, 11:48 AM
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Btw. not better in my system :-)
I did 'say' IMO.

Try changing the phase and/or filter.
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Old 19-03-12, 12:22 PM
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You have used the term 'extra components' vs my 'additional components'.

Not sure which is correct but basically the same imo.
Sorry, did not read your post properly.. Yes, what you said!

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I did 'say' IMO.

Try changing the phase and/or filter.
Sure - IMO as well :-) Most people seem to agree that the XLR output is better. I just wanted to mention that found the RCA sounded better in my system.

Anyway, that Mdac is burning in and should find it's way into my system tomorrow!
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Old 19-03-12, 01:23 PM
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Sorry, did not read your post properly.. Yes, what you said!



Sure - IMO as well :-) Most people seem to agree that the XLR output is better. I just wanted to mention that found the RCA sounded better in my system.

Anyway, that Mdac is burning in and should find it's way into my system tomorrow!
The M-DAC does take some time to come 'on song' but, really worth the wait.

Obviously depends on the rest of your system and personal preferences but a great DAC.

All IMO
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Old 19-03-12, 07:25 PM
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John W
Please PM me the address in Czech Rep and i will send the M-Dac.
You innbox is full
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Old 19-03-12, 07:30 PM
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Apparently the Dacmagic has extra components in the signal path when using the rca's, that would be one reason they sound different.
The MDAC is designed so the RCA output is not degraded at the expense of the XLR outputs.

It might be a different story for the amplifier - where most amplifiers are not true balanced input rather convert the balance input to single-ended operation internally - this is such poor design practice when most amplifiers have true differential input stages... I can tell you for free that its not going to happen this way on our M-AMP!

John
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Old 19-03-12, 07:38 PM
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Hi JohnW

I have been thinking about maybe i will go for one of your upgrade solution at the same time sinse i am sending my M-DAC to Czech Rep.
Please pm the address and e-mail adress for easier communication.

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Leif A
Leif A,

There are no updates yet (the raw / unfinished MPAX casework extrusions should arrive today) - but in light of the inconvenience caused by the failure of your MDAC's (Iím always sorry when I hear of a unit failing) - I can improve the performance of your unit when it arrives here in CZ.

John
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Old 19-03-12, 07:42 PM
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Give it at least a week - JohnW has mentioned the 'organic' caps used in the psu section as needing a long time to get to their optimal working condition. Mine sounded uninspiring/variable - for the most part - for a week or two before it came on song. There are those that don't believe this, but ive never had a piece of equipment that needed so much running in time to sound decent. Was tempted to sell it several times I must say. Now my only complaint is the never ending wait for the firmware update to fix the input filter display on all sources except usb...

-John
John,

Quick fix to the incorrect filter load issue is to set the "Sampling rate" display option to "nominal frequency" - Dominik's looked into the issue and its due to heavy traffic collisions on the MDAC's internal communication Bus...

John
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Old 19-03-12, 11:18 PM
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Thanks for this quickfix! I have my MDAC set to show "nominal frequency".

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Quick fix to the incorrect filter load issue is to set the "Sampling rate" display option to "nominal frequency" - Dominik's looked into the issue and its due to heavy traffic collisions on the MDAC's internal communication Bus...
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Old 20-03-12, 12:28 AM
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John W
Please PM me the address in Czech Rep and i will send the M-Dac.
You innbox is full
I've tried to PM you but PFM returns a message that you have configured your PM not to receive mail?

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Old 20-03-12, 12:58 AM
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I've tried to PM you but PFM returns a message that you have configured your PM not to receive mail?

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Hi John
Now it should be ok, if you PM me now and get the PM returned you can mail me.

e-mail: larnerla@online.no

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