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Old 18-05-13, 05:45 AM
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Cartridge and phono stage chit-chat

Chimps,

I'm currently running a Benz Micro LP on SME series V tonearm into a Whest PS.20. This is all very well.

I also have an oldish Transfiguration Spirit III sitting in a drawer. This needs a retip. It's a nice cartridge.

I'm about to borrow a Moon 310 LP phono preamp from a dealer for evaluation.

What do?

1. Send TS III to ES for retip?

2. Trade-in TS III against something else (what? Koetsu? Other?).

3. Any views on Moon phono stage? Rather like Naim gear, it's upgradeable with separate power supply (at 1200 if memory serves).
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Old 18-05-13, 06:10 AM
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i would upgrade to whest to another model from whest,

i tried a few others before i settled on the whest which james can set to work with whatever cart you use.

i would try northwest for a retip,esco are a bit hit and miss and take a long time to finish
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Old 18-05-13, 06:21 AM
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See how the Moon compares to the Whest + try a few others whils you're about it. Whests seem a bit 'hifi' to me but only a personal feeling.
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Old 18-05-13, 06:23 AM
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Bub,

do you find the Benz / SME combination to be sympathetic?

I am considering SME IV / Benz Ace for a future turntable project so was wondering if the weight of the SME arms suits Benz carts.

Thanks

Chaz
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Old 18-05-13, 06:56 AM
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I would go along with Artist, Bub, and go for an upmarket Whest used, if you like where you are now. There are soooo many phono stages, both s/s and valved, and each one will be different rather than head and shoulders better.

Not sure about re-tipping the Transfig., though, but depends on whether you intend to use it in preference to your Benz or sell it on). Hardly worth it if it's the latter, and I'm not sure px deals (like Lyra's 25%, e.g.) are available for Transfiguration upgrades.
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Old 18-05-13, 07:11 AM
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The Benz LP is a class act, a superb cartridge for sure.

I have just taken a Transfiguration Spirit III off our Brinkmann Bardo and put back the Clearaudio Concerto which absolutely out guns the Transfiguration, is as good as a Lyra Kleos and has become a favourite cartridge.

So I'd trade in the Spirit, a Koetsu is always a lovely thing to have.

As you know, at around 2K we think the Trilogy 907 is a star phono stage.
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Old 18-05-13, 08:12 AM
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Thanks for advice, all. I'll give the Moon a go, then think.

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Bub,

do you find the Benz / SME combination to be sympathetic?

I am considering SME IV / Benz Ace for a future turntable project so was wondering if the weight of the SME arms suits Benz carts.

Thanks

Chaz
Effective mass is 10/11g. Works very well indeed with the Benz LP.

http://www.sme.ltd.uk/content/Series-V-1330.shtml
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Old 18-05-13, 08:39 AM
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I used to run an LP on my SME V polite to a fault would be my description. It benefits from some sparkle in the phono.

Bzle try as many phonos as you can, maybe even give Mr Tricker a call and there's always the new vivid LCR from Guy at Pure sound...
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Old 18-05-13, 09:11 AM
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Phono stages are generally /hopefully :- solid state nice and quiet, accurate RIAA, valve
noisier background ,RIAA may be not as flat as you would like ,but adds a bit of valve life, it is only a simple amplification stage after all.
Keith.
Bub could you run your system completely balanced from phono to speakers?
Balanced can give you up to 6dB better dynamic range.
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Old 18-05-13, 09:19 AM
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Re: Cartridge and phono stage chit-chat

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Bzle try as many phonos as you can, maybe even give Mr Tricker a call and there's always the new vivid LCR from Guy at Pure sound...
Its the Aurorasound Vida. There'll be a review of it in HiFi News next week. Happy to send one for you to try if interested. (Not a valve in sight!)
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Old 18-05-13, 09:25 AM
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Naim prefix with a HiCap and replace the DIN plug with RCA's. The prefix is rediculosly great value and sounds like a dream with the HiCap.
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Old 18-05-13, 10:54 AM
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Lol, I knew someone would know the name Guy. I'd be interested to take a listen in a few weeks.
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Old 18-05-13, 11:30 AM
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Whests seem a bit 'hifi' to me but only a personal feeling.

+1

But a view shared by many. If sticking with SS I prefer Tom Evans.
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Old 18-05-13, 11:43 AM
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Well, the Moon is up and running. Favourably impressed so far, but apparently it takes 300 hours to warm up! Can this be true?

It's got a blue LED.

Anyone else heard a Moon 310 LP?
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Old 18-05-13, 11:50 AM
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Anyone else heard a Moon 310 LP?
Yep, it was a two box affair iirc.
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