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Beatles - Remastered

Discussion in 'music' started by andyoz, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    Man, this is confusing.

    OK, so the files are, top to bottom, the 2009 mono mix, the 1965 stereo mix in the mono box set, and the 1987 stereo mix.

    Joe
     
  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    You are in an ideal position to tell us which mix you prefer! I listened to Help tonight and I have to admit I like the 65 stereo mix, it's not too ping-pong. Rubber Soul tomorrow, which is one of my favs.

    Tony.
     
  3. per-Sony-fied

    per-Sony-fied Me in another jacket

    Why are the left channels of the stereo mixes so different looking from the right channels? Looks like they've electronically produced that channel.
     
  4. FranzD

    FranzD pfm Member

    Count me in. :cool:
     
  5. Uncle Ants

    Uncle Ants I'm a Shop Keeper

    Because it's not stereo as you know it and never was. What's in the left channel is completely different to what's in the right channel. Ping pong stereo at it's most pongy with (for example ... I can't remember off the top of my head and for this one I only have the mono on vinyl) vocals and drums in one channel and guitars and bass in the other.

    I have to say though I'm confused. Are you guys saying that the mono box has a '65 stereo mix on it as well as the mono mix ... and that there is a different stereo mix in the stereo box?

    What's that about?
     
  6. Fox

    Fox The sound of one hoof clopping

    Its should be a contractual obligation that bands and producers are not allowed to get anywhere near their old masters when their hearing is going without very good reason.

    Same thing happened with Rudy Van Gelder and a whole slew of amazingly fucked over Blue Note CD remasters...

    Please! Just.. leave.. them.. the.. fuck.. alone.
     
  7. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    Uncle,

    Two of the discs in the mono set -- Help! and Rubber Soul -- include the 1965 stereo mixes and these, apparently, are not the same as the new 2009 stereo remixes (found that out yesterday, courtesy of Tony).

    It's getting too complicated for my simply mind, but I think I have the complete Beatles set by having the 2009 mono box set, plus the 2009 remastered stereo versions of Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road and Let It Be.

    Joe
     
  8. Uncle Ants

    Uncle Ants I'm a Shop Keeper

    Would it be a dumb question to ask why the mono box has stereo mixes for these two albums, and why those two specifically ? ... before we even contemplate why they are different mixes to the ones in the stereo box.
     
  9. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    Uncle,

    My guess is that only Help! and Rubber Soul were short enough to include both versions on a single disc.

    Joe
     
  10. Stuart Frazer

    Stuart Frazer pfm Member


    It has the mono and (1987) stereo mix on one disk. EMI ensuring you don't get the best of both worlds - 2009 Mono and 2009 Stereo. They must be the only albums short enough to get both versions on the same disk.

    Stuart
     
  11. Uncle Ants

    Uncle Ants I'm a Shop Keeper

    Hmmm ... nah. I think only the White album is longer than 40 minutes. The early ones may not even quite top 30 minutes. Besides if they put both mixes on one disc they would only sell one box set per Beatles addict. What I'm asking I guess is why the included these stereo mixes at all?
     
  12. Uncle Ants

    Uncle Ants I'm a Shop Keeper

    Hey Joe,

    I found this handy cut out and keep chart:

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    (I have no idea what the Singing of the Cyborgs is btw).

    Looks like I wasn't quite right. White album 92 minutes, Abbey Rd is 48 minutes (but only comes in stereo anyway), Yellow Submarine is just over 40 minutes (anda again, no mono anyway) the longest of the rest is Sgt Pepper which I actually know to be just short of 40 minutes. The rest are less ... in some cases a lot less.
     
  13. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    Uncle,

    OK, scratch that. It's obvious that many of the other discs are plenty short enough to accomodate both the mono and stereo versions on a single CD, so I'm going to revise my guess in post #410 to FIIN (f$%ked if I know).

    Joe
     
  14. Fox

    Fox The sound of one hoof clopping

    Singing of the Cyborgs is the LP that will be made by robots with the DNA of John, Paul, George and Ringo implanted onto biochips that retain the personality of the band members so as to create and perform new Beatles music with near Kraftwerkian prescision. A bit like the M5 computer in Star Trek.

    Ringo needs about 2 x the DNA because his Beatles period isn't his best work (Thomas the Tank Engine references may slip out otherwise) -- but that's what Dual (Apple) Corp processors are for..
     
  15. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    fox,

    When the Beatles M5 unit goes berserk -- and you know it will -- which bands will it take out before George Martin talks it into destroying itself?

    Joe
     
  16. Fox

    Fox The sound of one hoof clopping

    I'm hoping it starts with ELO -- (they nicked all their best riffs off the Beatles anyway).
     
  17. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    Then ELP? P is the next letter after O.

    Joe
     
  18. jimb0

    jimb0 Jelly Roll Soul

    This may be good for my nascent cover band Acoustic Lite Orkestra. I must get the banjolele fixed.
     
  19. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    I suspect they are in the mono box as they are the only unreleased mixes, i.e. between the mono and stereo boxes you have all legitimate releases of the standard UK format albums.

    Being pedantic neither box is 100% legitimate anyway as both contain MMT which was a US Capitol release. The mono box is superb in that it even recreates the paper on board cover and Capitol label making it clear it's a different thing. Stunning attention to detail all the way here (the only negative is TWA isn't numbered!). The UK release was a pair of 7" EPs.

    Tony.
     
  20. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod

    Found this on wiki --

    From the entry on Help!

    From the entry on Rubber Soul
    Joe
     

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