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Roger Waters Is This The Life We Really Want?

Discussion in 'music' started by Barry williams, May 31, 2017.

  1. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    The CD is clipped at 50% fullscale? If so a serious mistake
     
  2. ToTo Man

    ToTo Man the band not the dog

    No, I reduced the CD level by -5dBs to make the pale blue section comparable in level to the vinyl rip as I find this makes it easier to see how much range has been lost from the peaks (dark blue section).
     
  3. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    Been listening to this quite a bit on Tidal. SQ is average at best and although there's nothing wrong with it, there's no question Waters has run out of ideas as it's pretty much a compendium of all the sounds, effects, noises, barking dogs and riffs he's employed before.

    I'm big Waters/Floyd fan but I won't be buying this. I'd love to see him though.
     
  4. graystoke4

    graystoke4 pfm Member

    it's good but it's not as good as amused to death IMHO,,it just has not got the power and grandiose of amused,
     
  5. ACM

    ACM Vinyl Junkie

    This. I am (was?) a massive fan of the Floyd, and was firmly in the Waters camp after they split.

    However...after a gap of 25 years, and with the involvement of Radiohead's producer, I was really hoping for something a lot more interesting. Musically, it's really rather dull - just goes to show how much Waters depended on Gilmour & Wright for the Floyd sound.

    When you think about it, with each and every album from Dark Side onwards, the balance between music and lyrics has slowly but surely tilted in favour of the lyrics. This new album is simply the logical conclusion of that progression: all words and almost no music.

    Of course, despite all the above, I'll still be going to see the live show ;)
     
  6. Farthings cat

    Farthings cat pfm Member

    The vinyl sounds fantastic (much better than cd) and the album is a real grower. The lyrics are "Roger" and I like the overall sound. Each to their own but this has been on my play list since release - fantastic record.
    Gary
     
  7. uncl_nigel

    uncl_nigel pfm Member

    I have been underwhelmed by this one too.
     
  8. evand

    evand pfm Member

    My HR version looks nothing like the cd waveform shown above, it's not heavily compressed but rather a typical Waters release where SQ is a priority.
     
  9. Tarzan

    Tarzan pfm Member

    Is it any cop on the musical front? My CD copy is stuck in the holiday luggage.:(
     
  10. iiyama

    iiyama pfm Member

    I'm disappointed by the SQ and by the music itself.

    I've read on other forums that the HR was sourced from the mastered for iTunes rather than the same as the CD.

    I admire waters for making this album and particularly the subject matter but I find the album dull. But when I compare the 24/48 "Is This the Life We Really Want?" with the 24/192 "Amused to Death" I must confess, that the much more older album is not only more interesting musically, it is far better on a sonic level. More precise, more air, more soundstage. Maybe, we will see a in a view years a new real HiRes
     
  11. Tarzan

    Tarzan pfm Member


    On an initial listen l have to agree, track 4 'picture that' l actually thought l was listening to 'Sheep':D, and some of WYWH...l have to ask why is he so blooming angry?:rolleyes:
     
  12. zygote23

    zygote23 pfm Member

    Waters has always been angry...really really angry. I met him once in Dublin and what a gent....kind of took me by surprise as I was expecting a wizened grumpy old fart. Snowy White was playing lead for him at the time and told me Roger was a laugh a minute and regularly drank them all under the table. There you go then.

    As for the new album, Waters and Floyd have always been self referential with little nods back and indeed forward in time to their different records. I thought this album run of the mill on first listen but I have found it to be a real grower....Stick with it and see.
     
  13. iiyama

    iiyama pfm Member

    I like the fact he is angry and wish more musicians were! It's just that I find the new album bland on Intial listening. I do admire him for at least writing and recording new material.
    I will give it another go though.
     
  14. zygote23

    zygote23 pfm Member

    I spent some of this eve listening to the 24/48 HD version.....I got a headache....this may not be music related but I rarely get headaches.

    The vinyl still sounds grand.
     
  15. dbz

    dbz pfm Member

    ..and as if to prove that theory, Floyd's last album, The Endless River, was almost entirely music with no lyrics ;)
     
  16. BJP

    BJP Optimistic Utopian

    It's really grown on me as I knew it would , I wish he'd made a couple more in the last 25 years as he solo works are my favourite albums . Quality before quantity I suppose.
     
  17. GaryT

    GaryT pfm Member

    And the 2 studio albums previous to that had lyrics mostly from outsiders.
     
  18. Robby

    Robby pfm Member

    I have listened to the album a few times. Was very underwhelmed on the first listen. A couple of listens later and I think it a superb album that hangs together well enough to listen all the way through.

    I like the fact he is angry - it's a refreshing change to be honest from the vacuous shite that most artists both young and old churn out these days.

    At least he speaks his mind on a variety of issues with little thought, seemingly, of the ensuing controversy an the potential impact on sales.
     
  19. Robby

    Robby pfm Member

    Are we taking Floyd or Waters albums?
     
  20. suzywong

    suzywong The Man who had no Naim

    It was bought for me as a birthday present. It's OK, and certainly has grown on me, but there's nothing new.......sampled speaking clock, liberal use of the F word which really doesn't add anything, morose lyrics, etc.

    I suppose the question is: if I hadn't received it as a gift, would I have gone out and bought it? The answer, sadly, is No.
     

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