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St. Vincent

Discussion in 'music' started by matt j, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Anyone else just doesn't get all the fuss about her?

    It's almost like the reviewers are trying to shoehorn her into some sort of imaginary slot vacated by Bowie and force her "greatness" upon us.
     
  2. evand

    evand pfm Member

    Yip, if she’s made a good tune I’ve not heard it.
     
  3. James Evans

    James Evans Bedroom Bodger

    Yes, I struggle with her, but kind of feel like I ought to persevere. Definitely a damn good guitarist though, and not too shabby on the eyes either.
     
  4. richgilb

    richgilb pfm Member

    Try these songs off the 2015 album st Vincent:
    I Prefer Your Love
    Prince Johnny
    Psycopath
    Severed Cross Fingers

    Avoid the 2012 David Byrne album, particularly if you don't like David Byrne, as I don't.

    Then try these off the 2011 album Strange Mercy:
    Cheerleader
    Dilettante
    Year Of The Tiger

    Then this one off the 2009 album Actor:
    The Party

    Then these off the 2007 album Marry Me:
    Marry Me
    All My Stars Aligned
    Landmines
    What me Worry


    If you are on the negative trajectory I don't know if they will bring you round, but she only really shines when she goes for songs with chord progressions / ballads. And she does not do enough of them for me.

    I think her output has definitely been patchy but she is definitely interesting and a peculiar talent. Her guitar work is also impressive. Check this at 6 mins 20 to the end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jv4lgFrL7U Beware this is one of those songs that is shit, though. She's doing a bit of a Fripp, whom I understand she holds in high regard.

    I still think she has a classic album in her. But I do think it's overdue now.
     
  5. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Totally odd-ball, but unmissable. She does not stick to any particular formula though.

    Probably at her maddest best on Love This Giant?
     
  6. trick cyclist

    trick cyclist pfm Member

    Thanks Rich, that was a really useful link, and some stuff I'll look at later.

    For my part, I've been avoiding her, as the stuff that seems to be pushed from her album at the moment sounds like mindless fluffy pop-drivel, which I despise with a vengeance.

    'Year of the Tiger' very promising, as is the stuff that harks to me of Prince and Bjork.
     
  7. evand

    evand pfm Member

    That'd explain why her music does nothing for me. I just can't listen to Fripp, believe me, I've tried.
     
  8. richgilb

    richgilb pfm Member

    Yes, I avoid her guitar wanking stuff when listening.
     
  9. trick cyclist

    trick cyclist pfm Member

  10. david ellwood

    david ellwood Kirabosi Kognoscente

    I listened to six of her more famous tracks last night.

    I won't be wasting any more of my time.

    If there's talent there I'm missing it.
     
  11. guey

    guey pfm Member

    I love the last album (though it took a wee while to grow on me), and the Byrne collaboration Love This Giant - still waiting on the arrival of the new one.
    If she'd not have played at the Brixton academy (with it's sh!tty sound) I'd have gone to see her live.
     
  12. Sich

    Sich Active Member

    I saw her supporting Grizzly Bear years ago, she was shy with a two person show and I had no idea who she was.
    I've followed her since and she is a little marmite - spiky but poppy. She needs to grow on you, it's not instant; like all of the best music.
    I do have a slight crush on her :D
     
  13. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Failing to see her guitar greatness myself TBH.

    Although at least St Vincent is alot better than this latest one to get some Fender airtime (apparently she doesn't like "...things to sound too perfect" - no shit). Skip to the 'solo' at 02:20 and the guy just sitting there thinking - "how the feck do I play along with that!").

    [YOUTUBE]wRCea043IeY[/YOUTUBE]
     
  14. gary yeowell

    gary yeowell pfm Member

    Just checked her out on You Tube. That's 3 minutes of my life i will never get back.
     
  15. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun pfm Member

    The thirteen minute guitar-'shredding' performance left me bored to death. Seeing her play without the design-art-theatre settings is revealing.

    I found 'St. Vincent' was an album I could admire but not like. She has talent, wit and intelligence – but I don't find the way she deploys them to be interesting beyond watching her manifest desire to out-weird the weirdest in a clearly delineated art-pop-career trajectory. Somehow I feel that it's a bit superficial when you look deeper than the apparently intelligently cool surface. The new movie and the 'art' videos seem to make the artifice and strategies ever more apparent.

    The new album seems bit more varied but, again I'm not drawn to listening more than once or twice.

    Style-wise she seems stuck on a repetitive ballad route. It reminds me all too much of Shiina Ringo who at least feels more genuine at expressing herself through her music, voice and wild guitar.
     
  16. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Is the drummer wearing hearing protection?? (don't blame him)
     
  17. trick cyclist

    trick cyclist pfm Member

    I need to continue looking into her oevre (ooer!), but quite enjoying her early stuff from 'Marry Me', particularly 'Your Lips are Red', reminds me of King Crimson during the Adrian Belew period.
     
  18. JD68

    JD68 Active Member

    The music is mediocre and she's pretentious. It's a no from me.
     

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