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Toe-tapping 'musical' speakers for hybrid amps?

Discussion in 'audio' started by rescuest3ve, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. rescuest3ve

    rescuest3ve Well-Known Member

    Well hello,

    I was hoping some of you fine people might be able to offer some advice on some speakers I can audition: some really musical small-ish floorstanders or large standmounters? Preferably that would work with a Copland CSA29 hybrid amp, because I love that bugger and don't want rid yet. I'm currently in the market for some new speakers after coming the realisation that my new-to-me Kef Reference 103/4s are just a bit too highly-strung and hard-etched for me to enjoy. I'm finding myself reaching for the remote to switch music a lot, which isn't great. I've tried positioning and have a rug down in front of them, but I suspect they're just not working with the new room, and I can't look into too much room-treatment as the Mrs won't be having it. The midrange, soundstage and detail of the Kefs, I'll admit, are very very good, but I'm just not enjoying the music - it's as if it's almost too separated? Too 'hifi' for the sake of being 'hifi' if you see what I mean?

    I also have a pair of Tannoy Lancasters (15" monitor golds) which I love, but are sadly too big for my new living room and will be in storage, hence the purchase of the KEFs, which I picked up for a steal. If I could find anything with the nice balance of non-fatiguing warmth and dash of drama / musicality like the tannoys, but with the KEF detailing and soundstaging, I think I would have finally found nirvana. Anyone know of anything like that? I'll obviously be auditioning them, but would be good to get a steer.

    My taste in music is quite varied - metal/indie to electronica to classic pop, even a smidgeon of classical from time to time, so they'd have to be chameleon-like with a bit of oopmh and definitely non-fatiguing so i can listen to more than half an hour. The living room is a funny-shaped open-plan one: 12ft width (stereo to sofa) by 25ft window to kitchen, and price bracket up to maybe £2500. From what I've read already, perhaps some proacs?

    Thanks a lot :) I'll get a craft ale in the post for the person who suggests the one I end up buying!
  2. Rana

    Rana pfm Member

    Know what you mean. I've had the Copland 28 hybrid with upgraded valves but it didn't match the ribbons on my Decware speakers. I could have tried different tweeter resistances for the Decwares as they are easy to change, but the amp was a trifle large for my shelfing and so it had to go. Changing the speakers were not an option as they were given the seal of approval (aesthetically) by SWMBO. I never tried running them with my Copland, but the grooviest speakers I've ever had were Guru QM10s. They really worked well with my Linx MOSFETs. The prices have gone stratospheric (£2k new), but if you can seek out a used pair for under £600, then they would be hard to beat.
  3. rescuest3ve

    rescuest3ve Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I've heard good things about them! Apparently work wonderfully with Naim gear? I guess if it is the Copland that's misbehaving, then i'll consider selling, but it's sounded so nice with a couple of other speakers I've heard - plus the mrs thinks it looks nice - I'm reluctant to see it go. Cheers for the recommendation, though. I'll keep an eye out.
  4. eastone

    eastone pfm Member

    Are smaller Tannoys out of the question?

    Eatons or Devons maybe?
  5. rescuest3ve

    rescuest3ve Well-Known Member

    Not at all! Just never considered them, tbh. I'll take a gander :)
  6. kondo

    kondo pfm Member

    hi,definitive audio might suit
  7. fatmarley

    fatmarley Registered User

    Looks like Stereophile thought the same - Quote - "Higher up in the frequency range, however, the 103/4 exhibited problems. While different in character from those noted in the Fried R/4 (also reviewed in this issue), they nevertheless produced, in the KEFs, a rather crisp, slightly top-heavy quality which lent an impressive clarity to the sound, but which tended to be overly analytical. Percussion had excessive zip, and isolated HF notes pushed unnaturally forward."
    Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content/kef-reference-series-1034-loudspeaker#MU1hCQu3eX8V4Q6I.99
  8. PerF

    PerF Private

    Perhaps some of these ?

    Snell / Audio Note K
    Russell K
    Guru Junior
    Rega RX
    Proac/Celef various
  9. rescuest3ve

    rescuest3ve Well-Known Member

    @fatmarley Sounds about right. I guess my room is exaggerating the effects, too. It's not too bad for some darker acoustic, but that's about it!
  10. rescuest3ve

    rescuest3ve Well-Known Member

    not heard of a couple of them, @PerF. I'll do some research. Cheers.
  11. hifinutt

    hifinutt hifinutt

    defo try some proac floorstanders , they are quite small but very musical and the d20 ribbon is most certainly in your bracket

    audio consultants have a nice maple pair for 1950 ex demo

    some nice ref a speakers might be good

    emporium have a pair


    maybe some nice harbeth shl5 plus . take the copland to guildford audio and try some . might be the one here are some for you in your budget

  12. rescuest3ve

    rescuest3ve Well-Known Member

    Cracking, that's rally helpful thanks. The D20Rs were something i was looking at, actually, and will most likley demo a pair in the coming weeks. Cheers.
  13. hifinutt

    hifinutt hifinutt

    heard the proac dt8 recently and for 2k its impressive with its wood veneer and looks the business . apparently they are selling well , get a listen to some perhaps

    and the new 40th anniversary dynaudio is DEFO worth a listen i think , i was chatting to a chap in simgapore about one and he is well impressed

  14. Strictly Stereo

    Strictly Stereo Trade: Strictly Stereo

    Try the Graham Audio LS6 or LS6f.
  15. eastone

    eastone pfm Member

    Snell / Audio Note AN-K is a good shout. Very musical, easy to integrate into a room, when I had a pair they responded very well to a 100W Quad power amp with valve pre.
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  16. drummerman

    drummerman pfm Member

    Sonus Faber
  17. rescuest3ve

    rescuest3ve Well-Known Member

    I'm gonna look in to demo'ing a pair. Cheers for the advice. The few reviews I've seen of them are very favourable!
  18. jy3

    jy3 pfm Member

    NVA Cube 1's, 30 day money back guarantee if you don't like them. They will surprise you, but don't hang about I'd like the free beer before Xmas. :)
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