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“That cyclist” who hit the horse.

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Tony Lockhart, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Not as bad as short tempered car drivers though. :)
  2. drummerman

    drummerman pfm Member

    The worst.

    There must be short tempered horses ...
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  3. linnfomaniac83

    linnfomaniac83 I bet you can’t wheelie a unicycle!

    I’ve taken that into account, most cyclists I see on the roads around here are pretty responsible, those that aren’t are usually more of a danger to themselves than anyone else. The only notable experience I’ve had where I was in danger from a cyclist was on the A5 going towards Wall island (an unlit section of dual carriageway) at around 2AM on a Sunday morning, I was passing a truck when I spotted a cyclist in the overtaking lane, right ahead of me, facing me, with no lights or anything. I managed to brake and get in behind the truck, narrowly avoiding a head on impact with him. It’s just a good job I have excellent eyesight otherwise I’d have probably gotten an 85mph (combined speed) headbutt off him. He was apprehended by the police thankfully after I called them from a lay-by... he was probably off his face on drink or drugs though.
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2019
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  4. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    Yes. But I soften a bit at the scene. Horses are magnificent beasts. And riders are usually apologetically waving and thanking all the time. A three grand Bianchi jockeyed by some knob racing against the others / clock / himself shouting at me to get out of the way is an altogether less appealing experience.

    In another incident on a single track road in the wolds about three years ago, we somehow ended up on the road as the race was going on. Perhaps due to bad marshalling. They were coming in the other direction. The only thing I could do was park with half the width of the car in the verge so they could all pass. The amount of abuse I got from several of them was a joke.

    Finally, you get them shouting at you to get out the way on the Humber bridge cycle path too. Some simply hate using their brakes, even with 5 year olds wobbling along. It's never pissed up people on bikes without lights. It's always people on racers.
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  5. Nic Robinson

    Nic Robinson Moderator

    Living a couple of miles from Ditchling Beacon, driving to church on a summer Sunday can be a little wearing...
  6. Joe

    Joe pfm Member

    I don't fully understand why you draw a distinction. I realise that a race is a mass start and a TT is staged but the competitors are all going hell for leather in either instance surely? You make it sound like there is a great behavioural difference that somehow makes one much more disciplined than the other.
  7. cutting42

    cutting42 Heading to Fish Hacker Erg \o/

    On a bike TT riders are not "going hell for leather". With the possible exception of track races and cyclocross any competitive bike event is about careful metering of effort over the specified distance, it is not like a motor race where every millisecond of every corner is ruthlessly contested. Cyclists are looking for efficiency, clean lines and the max sustainable power over the distance. Which is what I do pretty much every time I get on my bike.
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  8. awkwardbydesign

    awkwardbydesign Officially Awesome

    That was my very first solo track experience. Stupid, but I survived, just. I ran off at Adenauer Forst but managed to stay on! That was in the old Deutschmark days.
  9. awkwardbydesign

    awkwardbydesign Officially Awesome

    Did you know that horse riders are not liable for damage caused by their horses, unless they are negligent? I was caught by that one when my parked motorbike was kicked by a police horse at a football match. After much argy bargy the police's insurance company refused to pay as the rider was not negligent. Fireworks panicked the horse.
    I don't know how that would work if the horse killed a pedestrian, though.
  10. Joe

    Joe pfm Member

    And yet only the fastest one wins...so it is a race and they all go as fast as possible to win the race.... efficiently or not. No points are awarded for style.
  11. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Wow. There’s no difference in a sprinter’s pace and a marathon runner’s pace. Blimey. All credit to Mo Farah and the rest. Incredible.
  12. awkwardbydesign

    awkwardbydesign Officially Awesome

    The thing I find terrifying is those kiddie trailers tacked onto the back of cycles. Usually too low down to be visible and totally unexpected. I would like to see some sort of restriction/test/licence if you are going to carry a passenger on a bike, which is effectively what that is. And a passenger who cannot choose whether to be there or not!
  13. bor

    bor queue jumper

    I was dragged down by one of those child trailers.

    The kid was still in it, which was the worst thing.
  14. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    It's awesome. Terrifying on a bike. I trotted round in 12 mins. Some of those e30s without suspension looked rather unstable watching them corner from the saddle of a motorbike.
  15. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    There are loads in Strasbourg. I saw one topple sideways with its live cargo on board
  16. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    Ah if it came down to it I'm sure I'd just think murderous thoughts for the next half hour or so, rather than create 'an intervention'.

    (If I did ever end up in pre-op awaiting a professional intervention from the chap though, I'd ask them to put the detached limb(s) in a cool-bag and send me (and it/them) somewhere more biker-friendly :) )
  17. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    On this point I must agree. There is little as unpleasant on the UK roads as the aggressive driver. I see none of this elsewhere. Forget to indicate? Expect someone to do tosser signs at you and offer you out for a fight. IN Europe they seem very relaxed, if a bit more selfish. I don't expect anyone to let me out at a junction in France or Germany. But I'd rather have that than have someone offer to kick my head in for a minor traffic violation.
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  18. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    But still more fun than being in the church?
  19. awkwardbydesign

    awkwardbydesign Officially Awesome

    I've had it in Germany, when on a bike. Amusingly, in Freiberg, one driver went out of his way to show me the route, and the next one shouted at me for not going fast enough! And some drivers squeezed up to prevent me coming back in after overtaking them. Just like in England! Unlike Italy, where I feel much safer on a bike.
  20. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    I am not far from Freiburg!

    There is defo a bit more up yer arse motorway tailgating in Germany. And France perhaps also. I am mostly city driving and it is extremely chilled in Strasbourg and Kehl.

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