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1971 - the miracle year for music

Discussion in 'music' started by gassor, Dec 12, 2016.

  1. Mal45

    Mal45 pfm Member


    And the initial trigger for all the 66/67 stuff was Dylan's Like A Rolling Stone. Its length and style broke the contraints of 3 minutes plus guitars/drums that was pretty much the norm until then. But most important were the lyrics. Pre LARS it was mainly boy/girl stuff. Afterwards, you could write about anything and everyone did.

    I still distinctly remember the first time I heard LARS on its release in 65. It was utterly stunning, given the stuff we were used to then (even from the Beatles/Stones etc).

    Malc
     
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  2. Klyde

    Klyde pfm Member

    I can add my seventy-oners:

    - John Cale & Terry Riley ‎– Church Of Anthrax
    - Can – Tago Mago
    - Faust – Faust
    - Peter Hammill - Fool's Mate
    - Jimi Hendrix ‎– Isle Of Wight
    - Kraftwerk – Kraftwerk
    - Joni Mitchell – Blue
    - Yoko Ono – Fly
    - The Rolling Stones ‎– Sticky Fingers
    - Soft Machine – Fourth
    - Van Der Graaf Generator ‎– Pawn Hearts

    Great year indeed!

    Cheers,

    Willem
     
  3. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    THE decade was '63 to '73 (ish), but I agree that '66/'67 changed things irrevocably; rather, it started the 'LP first' revolution, which I guess just got bigger and better to about '73/'74.

    Electric folk (Fairport et al) fits into this fabulous half decade or so too, and I'm constantly surprised by the sheer dynamics/s.q. of these records when played on today's good record players.

    Overall, it was a time of diverse and burgeoning musical talent that I can't remember being replicated.

    You can add Simon & Garfunkle, The Byrds, Harrison, Deep Purple, Animals, Clapton, Allman Bros, Tom Petty.... (and I've only looked through a tenth of my albums).
     
  4. lsinclair

    lsinclair pfm Member

    There is one writer - maybe Barney Hoskyns - who has a theory that after Tomorrow Never Knows popular music stopped progressing linearly and started going round in a wide circle. It quite appeals to me.
     
  5. fay spook

    fay spook pfm Member

    I thought that happened when we moved from the phonograph to the gramophone?
     
  6. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    Linearity is an oversimplification if you ask me. Wasn't Rap as big a quantum leap for modern music as the creation of rock n roll from blues and country
     
  7. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    I don't know what makes more sense in that theory.

    Music progressing linearly up to a point or music starting going round in a circle.

    Brilliant.
     
  8. fay spook

    fay spook pfm Member

    OR was what came from Electro with its machine only music influencing just as much? I have spoken before about the music that apparently comes out of nowhere. Almost but usually there are the clues earlier, Last Poets, reggae MCs etc. Did Rap become a thing when it moved from MCing over other peoples tracks? Or when the instrumental tracks became more abstract (albeit very derivative from itself)? My current pet theory is that genres die creatively when they become a thing i.e. once you can define them or people call themselves punks/hip-hoppers and call it a culture.

    The joy of this is no music theory is 100%. As long as they are generally right they will have to do!
     
  9. blossomchris

    blossomchris I feel better than James Brown

    Any guesses on what is to come, anyone?


    Bloss
     
  10. fay spook

    fay spook pfm Member

    That's the problem
     
  11. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    The thing that has altered entirely in recent years is the corporate and media narrative. Right through popular music history trends were spotted, developed and marketed by labels, magazines, radio stations etc, e.g. when rock 'n'roll, 60s beat, psych, heavy rock, glam, punk etc happened there were a lot of corporate types who controlled the manufacturing and media outlets and effectively decided what to push and what to overlook or cast aside. Thus 1967 was 'psychedelic', 1976-7 was 'punk' etc. Since the democratisation of media with social media, YouTube etc along with the massve financial hit the major labels have recieved due to downloads and streaming the idea of there being 'one youth thing' happening at any given time is now long gone. We seem to be living in an environment where every style and culture imaginable imaginable coexists, but few if any rise to the surface. In many ways the things that fit to an established genre are the least interesting things happening, e.g. the predictable landfill indie and archaic dad-rock that packs out the now extortionately priced corporate festival events like Glastonbury etc. They are a barometer of the over. It is an interesting if bewildering time.
     
  12. kjb

    kjb pfm Member

    An interesting piece in The Guardian today:
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...-beyonce-frank-ocean-laura-mvula-dawn-richard

    It's not the favourite thing of many here but 2016 can be seen for R&B as of the same standard as 1971 for white rock. The end of year lists, for example, are pretty much dominated by it along with Bowie.

    Some of the most creative music I've heard this year either from R&B or influenced by it .... or has been made by by artists over 50. I still like to hold onto the view that the best music is an expression of youth so R&B or its European counterparts like grime are probably a good indicator of what's next - either R&B or records by over 50s.

    Kevin
     
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  13. Bananahead

    Bananahead pfm Member

  14. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Another website so badly designed it crashes an iPad!
     
  15. Bananahead

    Bananahead pfm Member

    And we are to blame the websites and not the iPad
     
  16. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    With a post-Trumpian flowering.
     
  17. blossomchris

    blossomchris I feel better than James Brown

    Cookies for breakfast will be the answer, will be if he gets a second shot.

    I can't imagine USA marine bands catching on in Romford though.


    Bloss
     
  18. fay spook

    fay spook pfm Member

    I was surrounded by an American college marching band in London's Chinatown playing James Bond hits one. An amazing experience. There could be hope especially if we can get them playing Chas'n'Dave.
     
  19. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    Er...no....
     
  20. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    'Electric folk' yes, and I want Pentangle mentioned, not stuck in an 'et al.'
     

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