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Any suggestions for a bright, treble enhancing cartridge?

Discussion in 'audio' started by kowalski99, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    Hi,
    I listen to mostly new vinyl pressings and find them to be quite dull/flat compared even to streaming 'free' Spotify. I understand that most new pressing are not that great, but I love collecting vinyl and playing it, so want a cartridge that may liven & brighten things up a bit.

    Because of that I also need a cartridge that will also be sympathetic with poor pressings.

    My system is Rega P9, Rega Eos phono amp, Rega Hal & Eon pre/power amps & Rega RS10 speakers.

    I was thinking of the Ortofon Quintet Black S MC or the new Goldring Ethos, although could spend upto £1500 to find something that would really achieve what I need.
    Thanks for any advice.

    I'm running a 12 month old Rega Exact at the moment, which admittedly sounds good with some records from the 1980's and earlier.
     
  2. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr pfm Member

    You don't say what your current cartridge is. If you've already got a cart which would be regarded as 'not dull and flat' then you might have a problem elsewhere.

    I'd look at Lyra and Dynavector offerings within your budget, too.
     
  3. thebiglebowski

    thebiglebowski pfm Member

    Anything by Audio Technica (the Focal/Naim of cartridges)
     
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  4. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    As BL says. AT 95 or 110 will take the enamel off your teeth. Enjoy. Just please don't invite me round.
     
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  5. manicatel

    manicatel pfm Member

    Maybe a rega cart? I wouldn’t describe rega stuff in general to be dull or flat sounding. Quite the opposite in fact.
    Some of the Rega tt’s can be sensitive to placement. Is your one sitting on a dedicated shelf or a heavy large cabinet with other items on it?
    Best cart I’ve heard at the approx £1k Mark is the Lyra Delos.
     
  6. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    Haha, fair enough. I'm also suffering from a bit of hearing damage at the higher frequencies so need something to compensate.
     
  7. kowalski99

    kowalski99 pfm Member

    Thanks for the suggestion. It's on a Rega shelf suspended into a stud wall.
     
  8. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    Ditch the Rega gear and buy an amp with tone controls so you can turn the treble up.

    Vinyl should not sound lacking in treble so you could have issues elsewhere.
     
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  9. Darren L

    Darren L pfm Member

    Audio Technica or Mofi ( based on AT ) for a 'bright' sounding MM
     
  10. Darren

    Darren All Business

    The Audio technica OC 9 has nice extended treble. I've always enjoyed it.
     
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  11. ToTo Man

    ToTo Man the band not the dog

    Really? I found the AT95 to be pretty dull. My AT440ML is another story though and does benefit from a loading and capacitance tweak to blunt its top octave. I didn't compare the two carts on the same table though so maybe that's the reason (the AT440ML is on a Denon DP45F and the AT95 was tested on a Pioneer PL-550).
     
  12. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    We don't all hear the same. In addition I think that cartridge loading counts for a lot of so called differences between carts, as you imply.
     
  13. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Well, yes, some LPs I've bought in recent years haven't been great (at best!) but some, maybe not reissues, have been astounding (Leonard Cohen's albums being exemplars). Maybe it's not the cart? If something else is out in the chain, it'll negatively affect everything else (.....thinking maybe cart. set-up?).
     
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  14. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Really? News to me. I'll write that one down, just in case I forget.
     
  15. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    I'd not go with the Quintet Black S, it may be a great cart but the Shibata tip leans more on the wrong side of what you're after.

    I'd look towards AT and one of their ML carts, maybe start with the new variant of OC9 XSL etc.
     
  16. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    That's a very generous budget. I agree with posts above that hearing damage would be best compensated by tone control elsewhere. AT do have a nice extended top end, and my experience suggests that Dynavector's DV-20X2 is certainly one made to 'sparkle'. I own one and like it, but you might be better looking for a preamp with some form of tone shaping built in, and 1500 would find you such, used maybe but worth investigating I think.
     
  17. brab

    brab pfm Member

    AT 150 should work. Took the paint off my walls.
     
  18. narabdela

    narabdela who?

    Yep. One of the cheap AT cartridges should do the job.
     
  19. Durmbo

    Durmbo not French

    The tonal balance of MM ATs depends on the phono stage loading. To a point, the lower the capacitance the better. I have an AT100e into 47k ohms and about 200pF. It closely matches my reference digital source.
     
  20. david ellwood

    david ellwood Kirabosi Kognoscente

    I’d not spend £1500 on a cartridge for a Rega when surely an upgraded record player would be the better plan.
    If hearing issues require a non standard response then why not introduce a dsp unit and tailor it to suit?
     

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