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Apple HomePod - The Audiophile Perspective

Discussion in 'audio' started by dogbait, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. dogbait

    dogbait pfm Member

    Interesting review of the HomePod with detailed measurements on the /audiophile subreddit here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile...ophile_perspective/?ref=share&ref_source=link

    Quote from the review:
    iFixIt has also done a teardown revealing a well constructed device using Nichicon caps etc.
    https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HomePod++Teardown/103133

    Full disclosure: Don't own one (yet!), I have a Sonos One and a pair of KEF LS50Ws (and also own no Apple stock!) but a fully active speaker which employs this level of DSP control is unprecedented at anything close to 10x this price.

    It's just got me wondering/wishing what a big company with the economies of scale that Apple has could build for £1k...
     
  2. AndyU

    AndyU pfm Member

    Amazing! They measure pretty much the same as the Kii Threes, using the same measurement microphone and software, and without the 20db hole at 200 Hz! Poor old Keith! And you only need one! And they figure out where they are in the room and adjust the sound accordingly without needing to switch any switches! And you can stream to them wirelessly! Not to mention voice control. And weather forecasting. Superb.
     
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  3. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    That also goes to show how significant FR measurements can be.
     
  4. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

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  5. Rug Doc

    Rug Doc pfm Member

    Wow, well it’s just got a whole lot more attractive.
     
  6. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Wow, they aren’t ‘tweeters’ but 7 BMRs that handle 250Hz to 20kHz! This just got very interesting. I now suspect a stereo pair properly setup on stands may be a pretty serious contender that would worry a lot of decent kit.
     
  7. Rug Doc

    Rug Doc pfm Member

    I bet normal box manufacturers are quaking in their anachoic chambers!
     
  8. Rack Kit

    Rack Kit pfm Member

    Seems to be a lot of tech in there for £300. Maybe it's a loss leader to get Apple users to sign up to Apple Music?
     
  9. Johnny2Bad

    Johnny2Bad Well-Known Member

    I would expect them to have pretty decent sonics ... I can instantly tell, without looking, whether a phone ad on TV is about an Apple device or, for example, a Samsung phone, just by listening. The Apple ad reveals itself in the sonics almost instantly (as does the competitive ad's sonics, just not in a good way).

    But ....

    These devices ... all of them ... are true Trojan Horses. You invite them into your home, and they slowly but relentlessly start steering your commercial purchases to their portals. Sooner or later you will buy dog food from Amazon if you buy their trojan. Guaranteed. This also has the side effect of further eroding the viability of your local merchants.

    It won't be long before the reality will set in, for all your local retailers, thusly ... either they are tied with one of these individual ecosystems ... God forbid they are not tied to one at all, and they are unlikely to be able to make a connection with more than one ... and then you are at the mercy of who wins the consumer acceptance race, as there will only be one winner and (at this point) two losers (amongst the winners), plus a whole set of real losers who have nothing except people who go buy dog food the traditional way, and that number will increasingly decrease.

    Is that what you want? Think carefully before answering.
     
  10. davidjt

    davidjt pfm Member

  11. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

    A friend has one he is really pleased with it, Stereo/MCH coming in later firmware updates apparently,.
    Keith
     
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  12. Pedro83

    Pedro83 pfm Member

    The Homepod has excited me considering their $$$ for R&D. They know they are up against the likes of Sonos. Sadly, no native Spotify so if I buy one, it will be for the kitchen. Obviously they want you to drop more money every month for Apple Music but having tried all the services, inc Tidal, Spotify remains my streaming service of choice.

    I am looking forward to hearing one. If it sounds as good as many reports suggest, I'll probably walk away with one. When they sort out pairing another, it is likely I will buy another but until then I need to hear one.
     
  13. I heard one today. Not even vaguely impressed.
     
  14. AndyU

    AndyU pfm Member

    +/-1dB from 60Hz to 13.5kHz Keith, way better than your measurements of the Kii Threes, using the same microphone and measurement software. A fraction of the price. You can put them anywhere, talk to them, ask them to time an egg.. what’s not to like?
     
  15. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    FR = Fcuking Rediculous?
     
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  16. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    Exeatcly!
     
  17. Pedro83

    Pedro83 pfm Member

    .... welcome to the evils of the world; Marketing in its greatest form. Foie gras style.
     
  18. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

    Will you be getting pair to replace your ATCs?
    Keith
     
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  19. dogbait

    dogbait pfm Member

    Mine arrived today, been a few hours. Placed it on a desk with a wall behind it (seems to be Apple's ideal setup according to pictures of it) and gave it 15 mins to do its calibration thing.

    It's pretty stunning. I haven't been this impressed since I picked up a pair of Devialet Phantoms.

    If you're a Roon user this thing is the ideal endpoint for rooms where critical listening is not required.
     
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  20. Rug Doc

    Rug Doc pfm Member

    Can it be used as a Roon endpoint? I thought it was tied to Apple Music?? If so and it will play tidal through Roon then I might be tempted to get one for the kitchen/diner..?
     

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