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Audiolab 8000c Phono stage compared to standalone units

Discussion in 'audio' started by richie60, May 15, 2019.

  1. richie60

    richie60 pfm Member

    I recently picked up an Audiolab 8000c preamp to use as a Phono stage and to switch between sources in my system.

    I'd be interested to know how people rate the Phono stage compared to standalone units as I've heard it isn't bad.

    I know Audiolab generally gets a bashing here but I like their amps.
     
  2. JTWzen

    JTWzen pfm Member

    I used to use an 8000A for this purpose, which I believe had an excellent phono stage, this was switchable for MC/MM. I did get a dedicated stage later (musical fidelity, forget the model) this was just to save space and to be honest I don't think there was any improvement in sound quality.
    Audiolab don't get a bashing from me by the way, excellent amps.
     
  3. SteveG

    SteveG pfm Member

    I've not heard the 8000C phono stage but like the previous poster I have an 8000A and the phono stage on that is very decent. Compared to standalone phono stages I've heard it's certainly better than some of the cheap ones.
     
  4. wd40addict

    wd40addict Member

    Definitely better than the cheap standalone units. I borrowed an older Project unit from a friend as an experiment and going back to my 8000A's internal stage was like pressing a stereo wide button!

    However, moving to a Naim NAC72 was a clear improvement, like pressing stereo superwide!

    Listening was with a Denon DL-304 MC, 8000A used as pre-amp feeding a Radford STA15. Same cartridge and power amp with NAC72.

    The 8000A and 8000C phono stages are essentially identical, but the C has a theoretically better bias scheme for its transistors.
     
  5. mercalia

    mercalia pfm Member

    One thing about the 8000C ( and maybe 8000A) was the MC input could take the lowest of low output MC without the need for a transformer

    The TagMclaren PA10 ( more or less the 8000C in a better box) also has a nice phono input
     
  6. richie60

    richie60 pfm Member

    Thanks for the helpful input everyone. Nice to know that it's well regarded.
     
  7. RustyB

    RustyB Registered Ginga

    Yep, very good. Enjoy.
     
  8. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    I think the phono stage is very good on the 8000a. I use the MC side.
    The Audiolab is a very good amp. in my opinion. I’ve just had mine serviced.
    Why people are so strongly opinionated about it I don’t know...
     
  9. cjarchez

    cjarchez pfm Member

    Yup, the best part of the int. and pre, very respectable indeed.
     
  10. RustyB

    RustyB Registered Ginga

    Why people are so strongly opinionated about it I don’t know...[/QUOTE]

    I can answer that one: some people prefer a more up beat presentation.
     
  11. FISBEY

    FISBEY pfm Member

    May I ask where you got the Audiolab serviced?
     
  12. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    Kevin Green, of Bicester, serviced it for me.
     
  13. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    I can answer that one: some people prefer a more up beat presentation.[/QUOTE]

    I have never understood have an amplifier can be 'upbeat.' Surely it's the music ?
     
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  14. FISBEY

    FISBEY pfm Member

    Many thanks.
     
  15. deebster

    deebster pfm Member

    Going to ask Kevin to do mine too. Worth the investment I think.
     
  16. RustyB

    RustyB Registered Ginga


    I have never understood have an amplifier can be 'upbeat.' Surely it's the music ?[/QUOTE]


    You need to get out more, Martyn. :)

    To take an extreme example, play the same piece of music through an average tube amp, then through a Naim (etc), and I can't believe you wouldn't notice the difference in perceived tempo.
     
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  17. SteveG

    SteveG pfm Member

    You need to get out more, Martyn. :)

    To take an extreme example, play the same piece of music through an average tube amp, then through a Naim (etc), and I can't believe you wouldn't notice the difference in perceived tempo.[/QUOTE]

    One of my systems has a tube amp (Audio Note), one is Naim and the other has a big Krell integrated. They all sound different, although all sound good!

    I also have an 8000A, which my daughter is getting for her vinyl led system. and it's also a very good amp.
     

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