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BMW Z4m - opinions

Discussion in 'off topic' started by andyoz, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    5ft 6in?

    shouldn’t you be in an S Class?

    ;)
     
  2. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Wow, time warp stuff. If it's been kept indoors and the underside is as good as the top, then it could indeed be abelter. Wants to be at £12.5k mind, bearing in mind Andy got his Cayman for little more.
     
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  3. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I'm in an S type Jag. Small man in a big car, yes.
     
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  4. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Cheap to maintain. That is the key here.
    I just noticed the 20k miles. Only thing is would you be too scared to put miles on her? That's what I am learning...watch out for getting caught with a car you can't enjoy.
    Id be offering 20% less than any advertised price ATM (even more) and then you'll figure out who;s keen to sell.

    One of the nice special Clios would be in my targets too if I had the garage space.
     
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  5. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

  6. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    With the 1.3 Rallye, there was a company called Larton Auto Developments in Morecombe I think, who would do head work on the engine. They removed about “a jam jar full” of aluminium, which together with a remap and exhaust gave around 120bhp and higher revs. Lololols. I never really considered it, but that must’ve been incredible. The suspension would’ve been fine, but I reckon the brakes would’ve needed an upgrade.
     
  7. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

  8. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    With this years track program effectively cancelled, wonder what this S2000 will fetch if the seller really needs to shift it...probably thrashed to an inch if it's life but if it isn't would be nearly as much fun as a £150k GT3 on the track at less than £10k. Basically a front-mid engined car with that engine so far back.

    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201910153348867?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&radius=1501&sort=relevance&advertising-location=at_cars&make=HONDA&model=S2000&postcode=bt343su&page=1

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  9. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    At 85k miles and £20k, that one wants to. Still, that's Car and Classic for you. A wide range of very nice cars, dramatically overpriced. Somebody must buy them, but mot me.
     
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  10. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Some truley insane prices on there!
     
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  11. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    We all knew there’d be a price correction coming, and it’s looking like this is it. Of course, the very best examples of desirable motors will still scare the likes of me, but hopefully the madness of £65k RS Turbos and £30k Mk1 Escorts will disappear for a long time. After all, even those things are rarely seen on the roads now, except to go to yet another bloody ‘lifestyle event’.
     
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  12. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    I nearly pushed the button on a 2011 Cayman R at Xmas. Just south of £40k and luckily I had a ...WTF am I doing moment. The car was only in the low £50's new and it still isn't a 911 which is where the money will always end up.

    I remember 996 GT3 were £35k at the lowest point in 2012. Got up to £75k a few years back and now heading towards £50k fast and even lower possibly.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Try 996 Turbos dropping to about £16k by about 2012, then going up to..? Spaceship performance, if a little detached. A cared for one of those could be a monster buy soon.
     
  14. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    That's kind of mad - I was told a clutch change on those things (which they need regularly) wouldn't have left much change out of 10k at the shiny dealerships. Hell of a machine though :)
     
  15. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Old cars, regardless of their value, sooner or later hand in bills that are significant portions of the thing's value.
     
  16. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Yeah, and the Mezger engine is alot more to fix. Luckily they tend not to detonate. A true motorsport engine though but I sure wouldn't be touching one. Arching beautiful and small car on the road though.
     
  17. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    There's a few 996 turbos in that club photo I posted.
    Lovely things to look at and have a real predator stance when they are up your hole behind you on the road. I was wedged in between one and a 993 for nearly an hour..

    I haven't driven one but I can imagine the Turbo vibe and the 4 wheel drive doesn't really suite the 911 drive on the throttle thing. If the Turbos were only 2 wheel drive then I wonder if lads would de-turbo them to get cheap access to a Mezger engine (well it used to be cheap before they went up)

    Ashgoods probably have one of the better priced ones ATM - they are smart and know the things are heading towards £20k if things get worse.
    https://www.ashgood.co.uk/vehicle-details/Used-Porsche-911-Turbo-For-Sale-U1794
     
  18. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Turbo with 2wd.. GT2?
     
  19. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    I meant a bit cheaper!
     
  20. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    I can't see how it does - a wholly different set of driving dynamics. Chap had his new 4wd Turbo out on a trackday I was at a couple of years back (having traded in a GT3RS for it if you don't mind..). The turbo was blisteringly fast, but on the rare occasions when it got out of shape you could see it ending up in some very unusual gymnastics as the stability control and 4wd stepped in to pull it back into line. Safer on the limit I guess - and in truth with the shared front-rear grip, probably safer for most real world driving. A bit academic though really, as few of us are really likely to be hammering either 2 or 4 WD ones round at much above 3 or 4 10ths :)
     

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