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Brexit= English Nationalism

Discussion in 'off topic' started by TheDecameron, May 13, 2017.

  1. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.


    That sounds like one of those old joke formats from the 70s as told by Dave Allen but it's a true story, from the life of Rich.

    Knock, knock....
     
  2. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    I've got plenty more cultural nuggets from my travels, Dec. Did you hear the one about the English breakfast?
     
  3. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    I was actually just picking up on your use of the word 'cursing' rather than 'coursing'. It'd be a close-run thing between the Scots and Northern Irish as far as cursing is concerned - Welsh cursing being incomprehensible to most of us, of course - although maybe Cockney geezer swearing might get a look in.
     
  4. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Rich, I'm just teasing- I hope that comes across. You do though strike me as a paradox - you've worked/travelled abroad, tried your hand at different stuff and youre moving a substantial business and your family to Europe and yet you've got a pretty nativist view of the world. Is it "you can take the boy out of Hull but you can't take Hull out the boy"?
     
  5. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    Easy to be magnanimous in victory.
    Young and legless in Bangkok :D
     
  6. fay spook

    fay spook pfm Member

    The Italians have just as many stylish and non-stylish people as other countries. However the stylish Italian you are possibly thinking of dress like their parents in a safe way. Got to the shops there (and France) and you'll see mini me children's clothing and repetitively safe clothes.

    A lot of their cars look good (even with the revisionist views of the past) but they ar not all. Next you'll be telling me all the modern Ferraris are stylish?

    I love the country but we are ahead of them in many style aspects. We have shelves full of volumes of Domus magazine and that gives me a reasonable contemporary view of design - in our case from the 50s, 60's and 70s. There was a lot of great design from Britain and Italy.

    I was at the old Birdseye building in Walton at the weekend as it's in danger of being knocked down. I would argue it's the equal of the great Olivetti buildings. I love the FIAT Lingotto building but the Alfa Arese plant is not on my love list (although the museum contains some of the sexiest cars). Look at the Archigram influence and don't forget that the Pompidou Centre was Renzo Piano AND Richard Rogers.

    (All that without google do please forgive any spelling mistakes(
     
  7. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    I promise you I haven't got that. I'd like to see more movement of people. They're getting web feet in East Hull now.

    My main conclusions about my travels were:

    1. we don't own anything anyway, so whats all this shit about borders and passports. It was very frustrating.

    2. Thai village communities seemed happier than UK ones that I knew of. I'm no deep thinker but I put it down to consumerism and an expectation that the state will help.

    I have said on numerous occasions on here that I am not proud to be English. I just feel lucky to have a decent passport and Langauge. English language got me by in remote places. And got me jobs, actually.

    The paradox possibly is perceived by those on the left or right when looking at a centrist. It's not feasible to be there without cherry picking ideas from the left and the right. My dad thinks I'm a socialist.

    I wrote an album about my travels in Thailand. It was well received by 6music. Got about 10 spins, even the daytime shows played it. Radio 2 played it as well, but only once. It's called Goodbye Bangkok by Lymes.
     
  8. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Hoover, Perivale.
    I blame that Howard Carter and that Lord Carnarvon.
     
  9. merlin

    merlin Avatar changed - Town names deemed offensive.

    +1. When people are happy to be alive and have friends around them, life suddenly becomes far more pleasurable IME. Not likely to be something found on the Tory party manifesto.
     
  10. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    Half my problem was I didn't really know much about the victory beyond Braveheart and In The Name of the Father. I was no reader. And I chose Ancient Greek instead of history a school!

    It's why I end up reading books like this: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ny-review-james-hawes-mystery-heart-of-europe

    In the middle of it now. It's a really good one about the History of Germany for plebs like me. Sorry about the source.

    The fatherland is our last glimmer of hope for a liberal Western democracy, with or without the EU.....apparently it all goes tits up, though, If USA does not straighten itself up. I'll let you know how it ends.
     
  11. eternumviti

    eternumviti Bloviating Brexiter

    Blimey, she left it a bit late!
     
  12. fay spook

    fay spook pfm Member

    'Twas Tescos as you know and now it's flats and live/work spaces- I drove home past it last night (I used to live in Acton so I used to see it a lot). At lest it's still there unlike the Firestone factory down the road.
     
  13. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Haven't seen it in 30 years, I hope they haven't ruined the frontage- I assume it's a listed building.
     
  14. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    An amazing place. I used to drive past it every month to head office and you always look, don't you.
     
  15. blossomchris

    blossomchris I feel better than James Brown

    Think I remember the Lymes on R6. I could only find the Youtube clip with the Hull Philharmonic and playing The Fool. Was this before you joined PFM or were you thinking of anyone in particular. A pleasant tune and well executed.
    Daddy has a valid point you do appear as socialists/studenty.


    Bloss
     
  16. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

    I was a member here when writing it and releasing it and the orchestral gig too! That was back in the day when everyone could pick on their favourite smug Tory, Mescalito. I think people miss him,

    For heavens sake...I am a moderate voice, the voice of reason on this forum. Can't you see that?
     
  17. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    I think Mecalito may have died.
     
  18. richgilb

    richgilb Admonishtrator

  19. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    hahahah oh good grief my typing. lol.
    1882! sry.
     
  20. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    That's a real shame if true. I see he (Chris) has not been in for a good while, so I guess it looks possible. Whilst we always had very different politics I always had a lot of respect for him as, unlike so many Tories, he'd got where he was by building his own business up, i.e. he created rather than being a taker/greasy pole-climber. He was also very decent behind the scenes, e.g. he donated a very nice pile of vinyl at one point. RIP, if true.
     

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