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Cameron, Hague and Clegg, Leave Britons Stuck In Libya

Discussion in 'off topic' started by jackbarron, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. prowla

    prowla pfm Member

    I guess you aren't going to say what you stand for then.
    Suit yourself.
     
  2. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    If you are capable of putting together a non-contradictory question I'll answer it.
    If it's connected to the thread subject all the better.

    Yet you appear 'a bit' bothered.
     
  3. prowla

    prowla pfm Member

    Not really - I'm noodling around on my computer filling in the time whilst I'm copying files to a new disk.
    I was really just trying to get an idea of whether you actually believe in something or whether you are limited to just making sneering comments.

    However...

    In direct relation to the thread topic, I have the following questions:
    1. Did you support the Labour government when, as mentioned earlier, Blair was doing deals with Gadaffi?
    2. Did you vote Labour (ie. Blair & Brown's government) before, during, and after the above (ie. 2004)?
     
  4. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Even with no idea you are a chilled out entertainer 1st class.

    prowla's interested again :)
     
  5. prowla

    prowla pfm Member

    QED.
     
  6. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Tbh further proof you are a (unconscious) chilled out entertainer with no idea isn't necessary.
     
  7. cooky1257

    cooky1257 pfm Member

    Hands up all those who've considered voting BNP.
    Hands up all those who've considered voting NuLab
    Hands up all those who've considered voting ConDem
     
  8. prowla

    prowla pfm Member

  9. prowla

    prowla pfm Member

    OK - you have proved that you won't give an answer, even when you say you will.
    No worries; it's your choice.
    You take care now, y'hear.
     
  10. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Well done for getting back on topic, although a bit weak on content.
    Shame about sliding off topic again, but fwiw I support you with this form of entertainment.
     
  11. truk

    truk pfm Member


    I laughed at this at first, but then I understood that your tongue is firmly in your cheek prowla. I agree with you, and it doesn't surprise me at all that that bunch of amateurs have made a mess of this.
     
  12. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    I fear that question is too advanced for some.
     
  13. canonman

    canonman pfm Member

    Indeed. Far to advanced for me as I have never seen ConDem or NuLab on a voting paper.
     
  14. prowla

    prowla pfm Member

    Well, the last comment certainly was!:)

    But in seriousness, the correct way to go about handling the (frankly awful) situation was to go via the UN, and this has been done.

    It's been said that these incredible events in the Arab countries have caught all of the politicians on the hop, as they never realised that there was even an inclination towards any form of democracy there.

    If last summer someone had said that many countries in North Africa would have popular uprisings and oust their governments, they would have been laughed out of town. Yet here we are.
     
  15. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Perhaps he is Nick Griffin writing under a pseudonym?

    Jack
     
  16. MichaelC

    MichaelC pfm Member

    So. were Cameron, Hague and Clegg doing something as events began to unfold. I guess the answer is yes ie witness the the two rescue missions. I suspect the resuce missions would have taken a few days to organise and flights deep into the desert can't exactly be advertised in advance for obvious reasons. Having said that listening to interviews on Friday/Saturday with those that managed to get out of Libya it certainly appears that the Foreign Office were not much help.
     
  17. cooky1257

    cooky1257 pfm Member

    Exactly.
     
  18. auric

    auric pfm Member

    Yesterday I listened to a talking head on the radio (world service?) bemoaning the loss of aircraft carriers, Harriers and a few other means of force projection so it is hardly supprising that a plan takes a few days to come together. This talking head suggested that it would have taken a few days for the medis to gather detailed information as to where people were, the dispossision of defending forces and the like, the net is a good force multiplier when coupled with the vast amounts of on the spot reporting provided by BBC, CNN, Xinhua and others. Hearing of ships and aircraft taking loads of mixed nationalities is comforting and a good sign that countries are at least talking to each other and that can only be good in times of stress. I also expect that as the RAF aircraft flew in without UK fighter escort or top cover this function may well have been proivided by the US, Turkey and NATO assets from other countries.

    Not everything has to be done at the behest of armechairs generals reading the redtops or listening to shcok jocks.
     
  19. Mescalito

    Mescalito pfm Member

    To earn money, Zener.

    Libya is classed as a hardship posting, and an oil worker can earn very serious money if the place he/she is working has a hardship/danger component built in to the rates.

    Chris
     
  20. Mescalito

    Mescalito pfm Member

    No, a money belt with $5000 will get you out of just about anywhere, Still.

    I used my "emergency evacuation fund" to get the hell out of Russia when they had that failed coup against Gorbachev.

    Chris
     

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