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Classic British Modern & Free Jazz Recommendations

Discussion in 'music' started by poco a poco, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. audio grail

    audio grail pfm Member

    A few clips, some obscure, some obvious ones and one contemporary outing - Please excuse the films, I will not be bothering Bafta any time soon.

    Not British but a Lansdowne (Bad film and sound)

    Fantastic Jimmy Deuchar on TEMPO

    John Cameron

    Matthew Halsall - If wondering what LP to go for from this contemporary British Jazzer, I would suggest all of them.

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  2. poco a poco

    poco a poco pfm Member

    All the Jazzman reissues are in Stereo, but the sleeves for Shades of Blue and Duskfire are the Mono ones with just a sticker on the shrink wrap to say Stereo. I think you are right that there were only mono copies of these two released. It would seem though the mastertapes were made in Stereo and then a fold down was made for mono release. They do not sound in anyway like processed Stereo to me. I'm sure Gerald would not have allowed this after spending so many years on getting these reissued and to such a high quality. They all sound pretty good to me with lovely silent pressings as well, but I have never heard an original.

    I have the Jazzaggresion reissue of - The Bird Curtis Quintet, but not their Needs Be. I must add that.
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  3. Graham H

    Graham H pfm Member

    I spent far too much time listening to You Are Here on repeat play cassette whilst revising for my A levels, which may explain my B grades. But it was after I’d already heard Dedicated To You, so it didn’t have the same impact - but a great record nonetheless.

    Wish I’d been at both those gigs you mention, unfortunately I was only 10 or 11 at that time....although the only concert I’ve ever attended on my own was Keith Tippet and Howard Riley at Goldsmiths, duo and solo. Maybe more about Riley soon.

    I did have reason to meet KT many years later in the early 90s. He is an absolute charming man, very erudite and quick witted - as one would expect.
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  4. Graham H

    Graham H pfm Member

    Mathew/Audio Grail, if you have any influence upon the movers and shakers who are reissuing classic British Jazz LPs, can you please put in a request for Ronnie Ross’s Cleopatra’s Needle?

    Always nice to see your lovely Garrards with some great music.
  5. Graham H

    Graham H pfm Member

    Here’s another classic that can all too easily fall under the radar - the Frank Ricotti Quartet, with Chris Spedding on guitar:

    I was fortunate enough to find a NM copy in our local post office several years ago. Although it should be nominated for the worst sleeve design of all time.
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  6. poco a poco

    poco a poco pfm Member

    I first saw him in 1969 when he was on the Jazz course at Barry Summer school that I think I mentioned in Rendall Carr thread. I think he had aspirations for large band works (like Centipede's - Septober Energy) even then, so I think he probably had a fair bit of input into the Jazz Suite for the 1969 Moon landing that was produced as a large work for all the tutors and students to participate in at the end of the course? Hard to think that is almost exactly 50 years ago now. Saw him a couple of times with Julie (Driscoll) Tippett(s) in the early 70's. I think once at Bedford College with just them plus John Stevens on drums? Never saw him with Howard Riley, but he definitely should get a mention here.
  7. audio grail

    audio grail pfm Member

    Hi Graham, Cleopatra's Needle did receive a short run re issued in JPN some time ago. (Not sure on the sound quality though)
  8. Graham H

    Graham H pfm Member

    Thanks Matthew. I’ve avoided the Japanese reissue as from what Tony Higgins has said, regarding sourcing master tapes for the Impressed series, the masters could not be found at Universal for Cleopatra’s Needle. So I’m assuming the 2006 reissue would be a clean, and slightly expensive, needle drop. I wonder whatever happened to Fontana masters?

    But thanks for the Bird Curtis recommendation. Just ordered from Honest Jons.
  9. poco a poco

    poco a poco pfm Member

    Your mention of Frank Ricotti made me think about Harry Beckett, who has not yet had a mention, as he was on Harry's first album as leader - 'Flare Up' that as well as Frank has a great selection of of the then young British Jazz players including John Surman, Mike Osborne, Alan Skidmore, John Taylor, etc.

    I have a nice 1970 Phillips original that I must dig out and play.
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  10. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Keep Music Vile

    He also has an absolutely filthy sense of humour.

    I have seen him live many times in a variety of configurations, but I think all I have of him on vinyl is Centipede and the KC album he contributed to. Remedying my unfamiliarity with his recorded works is a must-do when I have more time to listen to music.
  11. poco a poco

    poco a poco pfm Member

    I found my copy of Harry Beckett's - Flare Up (see above) and gave it a spin. I can't understand why have not played it for so long. Excellent music and sound. Sorry I didn't mention Chris Lawrence, bass and John Webb, drums who make a great contribution to this album. Especially Lawrence who seems to have played with just about everybody, on classical, rock and pop as well as Jazz Records and is still active.

    While looking for this I also found and played my copy of Sunbird by Gordon Beck with him on piano / electric piano and Alan Holdworth on electric and acoustic guitars. Later period 1979 and recorded in Paris and very much in the 'fusion' period, but very good and sounds pretty fine as well.

  12. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

  13. Engels

    Engels pfm Member

    Some ideas from my collection...

    John McLaughlin - Extrapolation

    John Mayer & Joe Harriott - Indo-Jazz Fusions

    John Stevens - John Stevens Away

    Jack Bruce - Things We Like

    Alan Skidmore - The Call

    Pinkski Zoo - East Rail East

    Bill Bruford's Earthworks - Dig?

    First House- Cantilena
  14. herb

    herb music live

    Later Westbrook is also great if you 'get' Mrs Westbrook etc

    My favourites are Release, Celebration. Marching Song. Love Songs, Mama Chicago. The Cortege and Glad Day. I never tire of those.

    I can accept that some find it unpleasant though, I went to a concert in about 1990, advertised as Cabaret Jazz, where half the audience (those under 30 years old), walked out after the first song. Titanic, sung by Kate. The band turned their backs also, we moved into the now vacant best seats and a great night was had by all. One of those things you never forget
  15. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Waiting for the streetcar..

    And one other that I thought of over the weekend:

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  16. monstrous lie

    monstrous lie Infinitely Baffled

    I stumbled across this one more or less by accident a few years back, and it has since become one of my most loved and consistently enjoyable albums:
    Mine is a nice cheapie "Whatmusic" re-issue (2002), but if you want the real thing it will prove to be rather more costly unfortunately.
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  17. Theo

    Theo pfm Member

    Yes, I'd love to see a proper re-release of that one. The CD will have to do for the time being.

    Another Graham Collier release I rate is "Down Another Road" from 1969.
  18. Colonel_Mad

    Colonel_Mad pfm Member

    I'm quite the fan of Matthew Halsall's Fletcher Moss Park.

    A Manchester-based small jazz ensemble leader/trumpet player. Miles Davis clearly his influence.

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  19. Graham H

    Graham H pfm Member

    The Halsall track Audiograil posted certainly sounded very good. One to be considered.

    In the meantime, here is a nice collection ( to say the least) for those that haven’t already seen it (probably already posted):

  20. herb

    herb music live

    I played that this afternoon with Westbrook's Love songs. Timeless, though she seems to disown these as experimental.....
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