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Cutting edge actives destroy passive rivals in head to head showdown

Discussion in 'trade discussion' started by Purité Audio, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

  2. calorgas

    calorgas pfm Member

    I like the sound of the word 'resolutio', a bit like resolution but with a bit of Italian pizzazz :D

    ...the Dutch&Dutch extended deeper and had far greater resolutio than any of the passive loudspeakers....
     
  3. Mr_Sukebe

    Mr_Sukebe pfm Member

    Insta-fail on the 2nd link when someone makes a suggestion that the actives must automatically be "full range", whereas passives seemingly aren't.

    I've heard some actives armed with DSP technology, and whilst they can be massaged, they're still not completely immune to the laws of physics. More to the point, use the right DSP capable source, and some of that range extension can be achieved with passives.
     
  4. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Was the test unsighted?
     
  5. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

    Of course traditional passive speakers can be full range they just tend to be rather larger than the Kii/8C!
    Keith
     
  6. adamk

    adamk pfm Member

    One system sounded as if it were under a blanket apparently
    Does that count in ABX criteria ?

    I've lost track of the Naim variants- what is a 250 Df ?
     
  7. Elephantears

    Elephantears Trunkated Aesthete

    But when you measured the active vs passive LS50s the measurements were almost identical, and I thought you based all your judgements on measurements of frequency response?
     
  8. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

    I didn't measure the Dutch&Dutch / Harbeth in the customers house , I am certain they would have objectively reflected the subjective sound quality .
    The Harbeth were good, just a little indistinct compared to the D&D , and obviously nowhere near the same bass extension .
    Keith
     
  9. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Everybody knows a blanket is needed. Winter is on the way.

    Jack
     
  10. Still

    Still absolute unit

    Was the test unsighted?
     
  11. Elephantears

    Elephantears Trunkated Aesthete

    You've not answered my question, as ever. I didn't refer to the sound test you've linked, since this is a locked blog I cannot access. Your sensational headline makes a claim about actives vs passives, so I referred to your comparison of active vs passive LS50s. Your measurements showed little difference.
     
  12. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

    The measurements were similar but you would expect that from two identically sized loudspeakers using the same drivers.
    The Dutch&Dutch and Kii's speakers are quite unlike the active 50's I don't see your point.
    Keith
    2john the difference between 8C and Harbeth is so large that unsighted comparison was not necessary ,although if you visited here we could conduct an unsighted comparison for you.
     
  13. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    What a crock of purshite.
     
  14. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    The "blanket" quote seems to refer to Shahinians. Who'd have guessed a studio nearfield control monitor would sound different to a far-field omnidirectional home speaker? I bet no one saw that coming! Can we get to the review of bananas vs. potatoes now please?
     
  15. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    So was this like a 'Robot Wars' thing, where the active speakers, equipped with circular saws, ripped the passive speakers to pieces?
     
  16. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    One can only hope.
     
  17. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    By everyone bar the pixies and goblins.
     
  18. gustavm

    gustavm pfm Member

    To be fair, the title of this thread refers to "cutting edge" actives, which I assumed is intended to refer to those containing arrays of drivers to control low-frequency directionality in order to avoid or compensate for room modes. So KS50 active/passive comparison largely irrelevant here. I havn't heard any, but (being very aware of how important room interaction is) I am prepared to accept the possibility this could be one of the very few genuine advances in SQ over the last many decades.
     
  19. htm_1968

    htm_1968 pfm Member

    Purite in hyper-hype shocker, who would've guessed?
     
  20. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

    Just returned from hearing the Kii's versus Shahinians in the customers own home.
    Keith
     

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