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DAC for a Supernait 2

Discussion in 'audio' started by wpm, Jan 21, 2019.

  1. wpm

    wpm pfm Member

    Hi

    My CDP is off for repair with a faulty mechanism ( Philips CD960 ) and it will be a while before i have it back.

    CD Playback was my primary more of music listening.

    I anticipate more CD playback problems given the hot / humid and dusty environment here.

    My CD960 is old as well so things & people age..

    But i have some 2TB of music in wav which i can use my laptop to foobar to USB DAC and onward to Naim Supernait 2

    Looking for musical DAC ( without pre amp ) and a max budget of USD 1500

    these are the choices i have

    Rega DAC R - USD 1000 here - new with 1 year warranty
    Naim DAC - used - USD 1500 approx here

    My amp is a Naim Supernait 2

    U think the Naim DAC ( Jan 2010 model ) is worth the extra USD 500 ?

    regards
     
  2. a dca

    a dca Well-Known Member

  3. wpm

    wpm pfm Member

    Hi

    Thanks for your response

    I am not for importing into India.

    The Rega DAC R ( new ) and Naim DAC ( used ) are both available locally

    regards
     
  4. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer 432 Point5

    Would it be easier if you mentioned which DACs you have access to in India?
     
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  5. wpm

    wpm pfm Member

    Hi cerealkiller

    Metrum is avbl but the Amethyst has a pre Amp and headphone out which I don't want

    The price is higher too
     
  6. Sloop John B

    Sloop John B pfm Member

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  7. Old Shatterhand

    Old Shatterhand pfm Member

    Can you explain what you mean with "behind the current curve"?
     
  8. wpm

    wpm pfm Member

    maybe he means it doesnt have the latest features modern DAC's have - streaming and the ability to handle hi res etc..

    regards
     
  9. Sloop John B

    Sloop John B pfm Member

    FGPA, NOS DACs, there are a myriad of advances since the Naim DAC came out. I owned one and found it bettered by a Hugo TT which in turn I found bettered by a Holo Spring DAC.

    YMMV.

    .sjb
     
  10. wpm

    wpm pfm Member


    SJB

    can i connect my laptop USB to Naim DAC front panel USB input directly ?

    what cable will i need ?

    am not much of as computer guy

    inputs welcome

    regards
     
  11. wpm

    wpm pfm Member

    SJB

    The Kitsune is out of my budget

    I may look at the used Naim DAC due to reasons of compatibility and Naim family sound with the SN2

    The Rega DAC R OTOH is cheaper and might be easier to pass on to someone who has a non Naim amp

    Auditions are not ( sadly ) possible for me

    The purpose of my getting into DAC territory ( despite me being a CD guy is my CD player is broken and will take time to fix - my turntable Lenco L75 will take a couple of months ). So i need something to get the music playing - something musical and with some PRAT.

    I dont have any hi res music and i do not intend to stream.


    regards
     
  12. Sloop John B

    Sloop John B pfm Member

    No the Naim DAC is not a USB DAC, that port if for an iPad (or USB stick).
    You will need a USB / SPDIF converter to get USB to the naim DAC.

    You won't go wrong with the Rega but like most DACs it will lose more resale value than amps etc.

    .sjb
     
  13. Amber Audio

    Amber Audio Trade: Amber Audio

    You could get a used Philips or Marantz CD player off eBay to put you on and have a spare - even get one with a CDM-1 in it.

    Get a decent £100ish USB DAC as a stop gap, something like the Schiit (stupid name) would do fine - loads of other makes. You could keep or move on with little loss in £.

    I've have had both the nDAC and Rega, I thought the Rega was as good and better value, the Naim though will visually match and is still good, but as SJB explained, behind the curve on features. Make sure the seller has it on the latest firmware, I remember it being a faff updating it.

    Chord DACs are popular with Naim users - some of the older ones like a 2Qute may be worth a hunt for.

    Gus
     
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  14. wpm

    wpm pfm Member

    I prefer not to add another box ( USB to SPDIF conversion )

    I dont know how the USB to SPDIF will affect the Naim DAC

    regards
     
  15. wpm

    wpm pfm Member

    My CDP is the Philips CD960 - has the CDM1

    sadly it has a tray loading issue and is with my technician

    Technicians here prioritize jobs based on the income from the job and i guess i am in queue

    regards
     
  16. wpm

    wpm pfm Member

    The Chord 2Qute - is this very clinical and revealing ?

    would rather err on the side of being a bit mellow but fast PRAT

    hope i am making sense..

    regards
     
  17. Amber Audio

    Amber Audio Trade: Amber Audio

    Hope he gets it fixed and something simple like greasing cogs

    Yeah so if you buy one off ebay with the same exact mech you have a spare, one of the cheaper Marantz/Philips for example, some have CDM-1 mechs

    I don’t think a USB to SPDif will cause any problems, lots of guys use them, it’s a small device easy hidden

    No idea how the Chord will sound in your system/room/setup. Best get a home demo and if that is an issue, which I have too, buy used and live with losing some dosh when you sell on, not always but usually I have taken a small loss. Going on reviews it does seem to aim at Hi Fi rather than PRaT but you need to hear one yourself.
     
  18. Old Shatterhand

    Old Shatterhand pfm Member

    Thank you. Bettered in which way or only different like most things in hifi.
     
  19. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    I swapped a Naim Dac + Teddy XPS for 2Qute when I downsized my system a little while ago. The Chord is good enough for me but not a patch on the Naim with the (then) latest firmware. I ran the Naim with an M2Tech USB to SPdif from a Mac Mini mid 2010, which was just a streamer.
     
  20. Sloop John B

    Sloop John B pfm Member

    Bettered in that I preferred it, everything else is so subjective, room, ears, source etc.
    Music sounded better to me with the Hugo and better again with the Holo.
    I'm not a great one for noise floors lowering and veils being lifted, mid-range clarifying, bass agility and frequency spacing but you can take it that a bit of all these was most likely happening.....

    .sjb
     

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