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DeAgostini Classic Jazz on 33 1/3 Collection

Discussion in 'music' started by Algonquin, Jan 20, 2016.

  1. misterc6

    misterc6 Wasted and wounded, it ain’t what the moon did

    The discs they have issued are in the same order as the Italian list. What they have done is to miss out issues on specific labels which I think must have something to do with copyright problems.

    I have been very impressed by the quality of what I've received on subscription and with the instant 'no quibble' replacement service when there have been quality problems. I was considering stopping my subscription and just buying those issues I really want on back order but this morning their shop only lists issues 1 to 5. I'm sure I remember seeing later issues there and wonder if they are now out of stock? I know that part works reduce their print run as the series progresses.

    I'm sure there are enough subscribers on PFM to keep us informed of what the next issue is going to be, maybe we could have a sticky at the top of the thread?
  2. poco a poco

    poco a poco pfm Member

    They continue to link the wrong back issues pages and the correct ones are difficult to find but they are here:
  3. flapland

    flapland pfm Member

    Ok this months LP's have arrived and we have Wayne Shorter Speak no evil as expected and also Sonny Rollins Alfie Soundtrack which wasn't expected nor I believe on the Italian list. Anyway the Wayne Shorter is new to me but a nice clean pressing as usual. Haven't spun Alfie yet.

    Next one after Sonny Rollins will be Bill Evans Trio 64.
  4. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Just to avoid confusion
    This of us who subscribed earliest in the issue this month got Wayne a Shorter Speak No Evil and Sketches of Spain...
  5. flapland

    flapland pfm Member

    Thats interesting Bob as that means you are one behind me and others. I subscribed fairly early, after Billie Holiday I think.
  6. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    I subscribed the week the first album came out.

    There are lots of us who seem out of kilter in records we receive.
  7. misterc6

    misterc6 Wasted and wounded, it ain’t what the moon did

    As I understand it those, like me, who started a subscription with issue 1 are one issue behind those who bought issue 1 in the shops and started their subscription with issue 2. The former had mailings of issues 1 & 2, 3 & 4, etc. whilst the latter had mailings of issues 2 & 3, 4 & 5, etc.
  8. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    I at last found how to put the inserts into the album thanks to google!
  9. binsey

    binsey pfm Member

    Zippo lighter too.
    Pity I have packed in the cigars.
  10. smegger68

    smegger68 Mango Enthusiast

    You'd light a cigar with a petrol lighter? :eek:
  11. Colonel_Mad

    Colonel_Mad pfm Member

    Wayne Shorter 'Speak No Evil'. Is this another Mono in a Stereo cover?

    If not it's a blooming narrow soundstage. Lovely sound all the same. What does anyone else think?
  12. florette69

    florette69 pfm Member

    I made a similar comment earlier. To my ears the DeAgostini Blue Notes have an extremely narrow soundstage, just like the RVG CDs.
  13. shrink

    shrink pfm Member

    My local Asda are still selling copies. Picked up
    Alfie the other day and still impressed.

    Agreed on the narrow soundstage on the blue note stuff. Coming from "speak no evil" to "Alfie" is like I'm listening on a different system
  14. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    Alfie is superb, isn't it? Smiths are still getting a few copies and I'm picking up some random ones I've never heard/owned.

  15. poco a poco

    poco a poco pfm Member

    Just played the Ornette Coleman - New York is Now, Blue Note reissue that I collected from my Newsagent this morning. Sounds excellent and with a pretty wide soundstage on my system. Of course great music.

    Next issue will be Charlie Haden - Liberation Music Orchestra. I have an original pressing of this, but despite my resolve not to buy issues where I have a good copy I have ordered it just to compare.

    Generally I have found that where I have an original or good early pressing I have preferred these, but most of the De Agostini's are pretty good and usually are a quieter pressing, but then I have either brought these S/H and/or have been playing them for 40 - 50+ years. :D

    I have brought 17 out of 19 Jazz 33's so far and only had to return one, the Ella & Louis, that some others had a problem with.
  16. Graham H

    Graham H pfm Member

    If New York is Now is the same Optimal pressing as the 75th anniversary edition, they have made a good job of it. I like the gatefold sleeve and the large colour photo of Ornette composing in the studio. I assume the DeAgostini is the same. And of course it's got Jimmy Garrison and Elvin Jones. Essential.
  17. poco a poco

    poco a poco pfm Member

    Yes it is the gatefold sleeve with Ornette composing with only a tiny bit of text on the other side and on the reproduced Blue Note label indicating Jazz 33. All these De Agostini's have had very faithful representations of the original sleeves and labels.

    I don't think this is an Optimal pressing though (no Optimal mark in the dead wax), I'm fairly certain that they are all being pressed by Phonopress Paullo in Italy where De Agostini first issued the series. The pressings though are really excellent, very quiet and flat. I have quite a few of the Blue Note 75 Optimals and while pretty good and much better than the United pressing of the same, I would say the pressing quality of the Jazz 33's is consistently better still, with the one exception I mention above.

    Does the Blue Note 75 mastering have, as the original released issue, the Mel Fuhrman vocal overdub on 'Now we interrupt for a Commercial' or the later CD version with the band members doing the vocal as originally recorded?
  18. poco a poco

    poco a poco pfm Member

    Listening to the Charlie Haden Liberation Music Orchestra now that I picked up yesterday. Still sounds pretty radical. Think I will dig out my copy of 'The Ballard of the Fallen' or 'Escalator Over the Hill' to follow :)

    Next issue Jazz 33 issue will be Ben Webster meets Oscar Peterson.

    That will certainly be different. De Agostini have to be applauded for covering such a range of Jazz and mixing the releases. They are not going for just the safe options sales wise, although of course it is still difficult for buyers to know what is coming next. I wonder if some of the more avant garde ones (at least in their day) are seeing more returns?
  19. Colonel_Mad

    Colonel_Mad pfm Member

    No doubt buoyed by the success of the Jazz on 33 1/3 series, DeAgostini are planning a Beatles vinyl series now along the same lines. If the sound quality is up there with the Jazz issues I may well be picking up a few of these too. Fingers crossed for a £5 introductory offer on a fully reproduced, top-opening gatefold White Album with inserts :cool:

    EDIT: Just seen this "All single albums: £16.99, all double and triple albums £24.99". Ah well. Assuming the triples are the Anthologies £25 doesn't sound too bad.

    Rumour has it (Steve Hoffman forum) that it will include all the Anthologies and BBC Sessions etc.

    See here http://www.deagostini.com/uk/collections/beatles-vinyl-collection/
  20. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Anyone seen these in the shops yet?

    Looking at the pricing on the subscription page it doesn't look like there will be a low priced teaser to suck us all in!

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