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General Purpose Sound Quality Thread

Discussion in 'music' started by Still, Oct 2, 2017.

  1. Still

    Still absolute unit

    Do we music enjoyers spend too much time/effort on equipment, and not enough on the s.q. of our listening material?
    Obviously there aren't any simple rules as to what's best re: original v remaster / vynil v cd v download, but ime often there is a 'good' variant.
  2. jimi

    jimi pfm Member

    I collect vinyl and will only buy original first pressings if these are the best sound quality pressings that are available.
  3. mikemusic

    mikemusic pfm Member

    Original or remaster depends on the original and the remaster....
    Remasters do seem to be getting better in the past few years.
    Vinyl CD, download aren't that far apart anymore if using the same master of course
  4. darrenyeats

    darrenyeats pfm Member

    Digital here. I use http://www.findhdmusic.com/ and http://dr.loudness-war.info/. DR wins over resolution if it comes to the crunch.

    But before all that, I do my music discovery on crappy PC speakers - music comes before SQ, not just in terms of priority but chronologically! That's my biggest tip.
  5. Still

    Still absolute unit

    I agree music is the first priority.
    Also noticed an improvement in quality of remasters in the last few years.
  6. toozeup

    toozeup pfm Member

    Mastering engineers like Andy Pearce are helping to change things for the better!
  7. mikemusic

    mikemusic pfm Member

    Jimmy Page did a fine job remastering the early Led Zep albums

    Steven Wilson, of porcupine tree has remastered a lot of Prog very well indeed
  8. Still

    Still absolute unit

  9. blossomchris

    blossomchris I am not searching, I know what I am looking for.

    I also hear most new music via a laptop and make a purchasing decision from there. I have come unstuck a couple of times though when a particularly poor recording has lost most of its life when played on the main system.

  10. mikemusic

    mikemusic pfm Member

    LZ doesn't sound at all compressed to me.

    Hmm looks like Discogs rate the 2014 release as compressed and I'm pretty sure those are the ones I have.

    Decompressed is how I would put it.
    Will listen again ....
  11. Still

    Still absolute unit

    fwiw I'm currently working through my collection, and have been surprised with measurements of dr v perception a few times.
    I'm only on 'B' too!
  12. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    Try the early Barry Diament mastered Led Zep CDs. The remasters aren’t bad though.
  13. Eat Yr Greens

    Eat Yr Greens Member

    I have the DVD-A discs of Steven Wilson's work on King Crimson's 'Islands' and 'Lark's Tongues in Aspic' and they are hugely enjoyable.

    Also thanks for reminding me of the Led Zep reissues. Are they worth getting, over the originals? My dear missus is a fan and a selection (along with 'Celebration Day', maybe) might make a nice present.
  14. Eat Yr Greens

    Eat Yr Greens Member

    This is a very pertinent question, but unfortunately we don't often have much control over the quality of the recording. I tend to gravitate towards good quality 'pressings' (although no new vinyl now for the last few years) but the music will nearly always trump sound quality per se.

    Where it comes down to different releases of the same material, I'll always see whether a re-release has been done with better production / mastering than the original.

    An absolutely sure-fire no-brainer decision for me, after attending the "Sgt Pepper 50th anniversary" presentation by Mike Showell at the Indulgence Show, is to go out and buy it. I don't have a copy in my collection (never any need when so many people around me have!) but the remastered version is revelatory and for an old fart like me, very moving.

    But when it comes down to it, most of my 'new' discs these days are opportunistic charity shop buys!
  15. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    Do you mean digital? If you have the Diament/Sidore (IV) originals I wouldn't rush to change them. The later remasters are, imo, better than the Page/Marino series - but they were not the worst thing you'll hear. That 'Mothership' comp was a shocker though.

    I have needle drops of various vinyl originals and nothing I've heard so far beats those.
  16. Still

    Still absolute unit


    Barry Diament used to post here, but sadly not for some time.
    He also runs Soundkeeper Recordings (link), which releases records with exquisite sq, but only a few and imo obscure musicians.

    Eat Yr Greens

    Certainly worth researching what is out there, and keeping an eye on developments.

  17. mikemusic

    mikemusic pfm Member


    If you are patient they will come up on Ebay or Amazon for not too much.
  18. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Having been a vinyl man for 53+ years, I've never really gone overboard for CD, despite having some really good ones. As my CD collection (many classical) is still one-tenth of my LP collection, I've recently bought a few, with surprises on each.

    The Anniversary Sgt. Pepper was a disaster and went back to Sainsbury's a week later (put a thread on here about this) as it seemed to be cut far too loud and my Vu meter needles were flat against the stops on the only 2 tracks I played.

    A Jazz Samba Encore (1963 Stan Getz) early CD is, I'm convinced, better than the LP I heard on my system

    Another early Best of Sandy Denny I recently bought is flat as a pancake dynamically.

    Both Len. Cohen latest issues + 10 New Songs are superb.

    I was beginning to think that the late 80's and 90's CDs were better (more natural/less compressed) that the noughties' and later ones. Now I'm not sure !

    My CDP (LECTOR valved) does shunt out a fair voltage (3.4) which doesn't help, and I'd love to buy in some more CDs, even taking a punt on content, but feel totally bereft when one is virtually unplayable through compression or s.q.
  19. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    Interesting. Thanks.

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