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Guitar talk: acoustic, bass, classical, twelve string? You name it!

Discussion in 'off topic' started by windhoek, Oct 20, 2016.

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  1. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    I'm looking for a steer from the amp buffs.

    After a bit more research (and some actual listening in a real live shop..) I think I've been able to narrow down the type(s) of amp I'd like to buy - but don't know enough about what's out there.
    I think my ideal amp would have most, if not all of the following :

    (i) Good clean fender type tones - w/o any effects / digital processing in play
    (ii) Digital modelling capability. I'm not overly worried about the presets, but would like the ability to create and store my own tones
    (iii) 12" speaker preferable (with ample heft power-wise to drive it - tho not needing big volumes)
    (iv) Decent build quality - able to last for a good 5-10 years with sod all maintenance or care on my part.

    It would be for home use only - and (ideally) be readily available on the s/h market as I have well-developed cheapskate tendencies :)

    From what I've seen there's a plethora of stuff which seems to fit the above, but I've never tried it first hand. Was wondering what you guys would recommend - either within the specs outlined above, or something different, if some of those criteria don't make sense ?
  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Its called a Roland Blues Cube!

    PS Being a Roland I’d expect it to last far longer than 10 years, most of the old ‘70-80s Cubes and Jazz Chorus amps still seem to be working!
  3. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    Yes - was impressed by the video of Don Feldman putting a higher one of those - the Artist - through its paces.

    The longevity would be excellent - give it a decent resale value down the line, so worth laying out a bit more for.

    Decent s/h basic versions seem to go for about 300-350 euros here. From a look at the specs, the entry level models like the Blues Cube and the Blues Cube Hot don't seem to have any presets, or the ability to store them. Can you get that kind of functionality with a separate box without breaking the bank ?
  4. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    The thing I like about the Blues Cubes is that they are very simple and don’t over-stretch themselves, they just very accurately emulate a little valve combo without the heat, unreliability and need to play too-loud. The controls are just what you’d find on a Fender Blues Jr or whatever, so dial your ‘crunch’ in with the vol/master vol. This would suit me fine as I far prefer a nice clean amp with good reverb and to do the rest with a few pedals. If you want all the presets and FX I’d have a good look at the Boss Katana range, they’ll certainly add all the ‘heavy rock’ tones without pedals and still be pretty good clean.
  5. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Back to Bernie Marsden - this is a must watch, he's got a new coffee table book out of his collection...

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  6. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    The cleans on my Katana still amaze me.

    I've git the head though and it's going into some tasty cabinets.

    Katana with a wee bit of chorus and reverb is class.
  7. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    Thanks, I really enjoyed that.
  8. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Yes, seems like a nice bloke with an amazing guitar collection. Love the signed ‘52 LP!
  9. matthewr

    matthewr spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld

    Yes I enjoyed it as well. Also impressed with a guitar collection so awesome that you literally get to make guitar porn.
  10. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    A truly excellent TPS this week!
  11. matthewr

    matthewr spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld

    Oooh, something to look forward to this evening.

    I currently have both my amps set up using my delay pedal to get stereo out and running one as a blackface-y clean with lots of verb and one with various overdrives and a 5E6 Bassman style preamp pedal. It sounds great although somewhat neighbour unfriendly and I am rather reduced to just wanging[*] a big open chord and giggling.

    The SuperChamp X2 that has been plagued with noise since i got it gave a very loud *pop* this morning but appears to still be working and is now much quieter. Maybe it just needed to do the valve equivalent of blowing it's nose.

    [*] Technical term.
  12. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Shame he didn't play more. I was stunned that he didn't know about Gilmour and the Binson Echorec - I see Radiohead as picking up the overblown prog thing from Pink Floyd (as much as I like The Bends and OK Computer.)
  13. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    Since buying the Tokais, I've started to get more into the older Japanese made guitars - particularly stuff coming out of the Matsumoku factory. (For those who haven't heard of it, Matsumoku used to build guitars and components under license for Fender and others, and then started to release their own copies - allegedly better than the originals in many cases)

    Came across this early 'Superstrat' locally recently. A Westone Spectrum GT no less. Not expensive, probably less than the cost of a couple of decent humbucker pickups s\h. Initially hated the colour, but after playing the thing and experimenting with the vast range of pickup switches and coil tapping options on it, I'm warming to it:




    One owner from new - even has the protective paper on the back of the selector switch panel still in place, and the original shop sticker on the back of the headstock still on it ..


    Background piece on the engineering and logic behind the pickup design if anybody's interested in this kind of thing:


    Hope this doesn't develop into another obsession..
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2019
  14. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Not really my thing but great stuff!
  15. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Excellent, it looks really clean! Did you get the whammy bar with it? I’m a big fan of the slightly earlier Matsumoku generation before they started going a bit ‘rock’ in style, especially stripey thru-necks like the Aria SB1000, Ibanez Musician etc. There were lovely thru-necks of the preceding Westone Thunder series. Matsumoku is very well known and collected within a certain niche market but has a long way to go before hitting the LOLprice of US instruments.

    PS Looks like surprisingly simple switching for a Japanese instrument! I assume there must be pull taps on the knobs or something? Hit the wrong switch on my Yamaha SC1200 and you turn it off entirely, which would be amusing in a gig situation!
  16. -alan-

    -alan- pfm Member

    Aye - they're not ugly, but not exactly things of true beauty either. Quite bland really, but with a lot of interesting stuff going on underneath - a bit like the six-stringed equivalent perhaps of a Honda Accord Type R :)

    Didn't get the whammy bar alas, but the all important 'collar insert' is there, so I think any standard M6 x 1 threaded standard bar will fit. All three of the knobs are push-pull, with a nice little bit of detail in that the knobs are slightly funnel shaped - wider at the top than the bottom, which makes them easier to operate, esp with sweaty paws. A clever little touch. Found a little vid on youtube that shows how all of the switching works:

    Yeah - lots of the bare wood/thru necked stuff from that era in Japan is beautifully made, and worth getting into. I think I can actually blame this growing obsession with these things to a large degree on you Tony, for flagging them upthread to susceptible/vulnerable individuals like me. You should have more consideration for the easily led and weak-willed :)
  17. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    The more I look at that Spectrum the more I like it. It is a copy of nothing and I bet it is a great guitar to play. I like the colour too, again a copy of nothing. You got a bargain for sure!
  18. matthewr

    matthewr spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld

    I have got a new Fuzz pedal after my on/off relationship with my Big Muff which only sounds good on very specific settings (and not the ones that allow for cathartic after work noise making). I briefly toyed with the idea of the JHS Mufulletta on the basis that all those Muffs must include the ones I like and I feel like I should own a JHS Pedal as he seems like such a great bloke, but it's £200 which is a bit much if I don't like it with my guitar and amp.

    In the end I went with the new Fender Pelt as it's "only" £86 and I figured if any Fuzz is going to work well with blackface style amps it's going to be the Fender one. It also has a lot of switches to fiddle with which now I feel is ok because Ed O'Brien said it was just as legitimate as learning scales and practising :)

    So far am impressed. Does everything from the quite clean with a hint of fuzz, to fuzzy/sustainy lead sound to the Cherub Rock thick wall of noise thing. Possibly not the pedal for people who like the truly nasty, spitty, F**k U style though although I remain unsure about how much some sounds I hear on records are coming from Marshall rather than Fender amps. A really nicely made pedal as well.

    Next up: I have a hankering for a Tremelo and since mostly this is from listening to classic Fender sounds led me to this: which, both trem and reverb, sounds really nice to my ears.
  19. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    If you fancy trem I can wholeheartedly recommend the Hamstead sig if you can stretch to it
  20. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    Strymon Flint is another good verb/trem pedal.

    -edit- Just looked up the price, never mind...
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