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Has anyone ditched their belt drive deck for a SL1200G?

Discussion in 'audio' started by allthingsanalog, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    I've generally found Ritchers to be the cheapest, or the best deal. For example we bought a TV years ago and John lewis was the cheapest for it, yeah I know! When I told Ritchers they price matched it but they included a five-year warranty, which John lewis didn't.

    Changed days! "I'm getting rid of my Garrard/Linn/etc and buying a better turntable from Ritcher Sounds"!!! ;0)
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  2. Tim Jones

    Tim Jones pfm Member

    How good are the arms on these? I'm part-sold on the whole refined DD thing, but the arms...

    How easy is it to replace with a Rega, SME, etc?
  3. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Yes. They have a removable armboard and you can buy SME and Rega ones.
  4. allthingsanalog

    allthingsanalog pfm Member

  5. alanbeeb

    alanbeeb pfm Member

    I am perplexed that so many assume the stock arm on the 1200g is a weakness. It isn't.... And then there's the Kab fluid damper.
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  6. zarniwoop

    zarniwoop hoopy frood

    It’s probably years of being conditioned to believe that serious arms are straight with fixed headshells, while this one looks like a throwback to before all that. I must admit my reaction is similar, though if I was looking for a new deck I’d try to suppress and judge by listening.
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  7. Tim Jones

    Tim Jones pfm Member

    I'm just asking the question. What would you compare it to? What characteristics, good or bad, would you say it has?
  8. bob

    bob pfm Member

    I just got the 1210GR that was advertised in the trade classified ads with the Timestep power supply, I offered £800 plus postage for the Technics and not the power supply and he accepted. It is brand new in an opened box.

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  9. Jason P

    Jason P pfm Member

    On my old 1200 the arm, once fettled by Jonny at Audio Origami, was very good - it was, as I recall, re-wired, foam filled and had the KAB Fluid Damper on it. It just seemed to get out of the way. I would expect the arm in the G to be better still, being made to a far higher spec, and it can still accommodate the damper which made a big difference. I'd be interested in other's experience though.
  10. jagdesign

    jagdesign pfm Member

    To anyone considering dropping 2k+ on the Techie, I'd strongly suggest demoing the Rega Planar 8 first.
  11. Nic Robinson

    Nic Robinson Moderator

    I think I've spent too many years with belt drive tbh.
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  12. early

    early pfm Member

    The magnesium tubed arm on the 1200G is good , I think it suffers the "weak link" stigma because it looks just like the old arm . Sonically it is extremely neutral and it is put together very well , the only "fly in the ointment" is that ( in my case )
    the adjustable VTA would not go low enough for shallow carts . Obviously this can be overcome with thicker mats or headshell spacers .

    Changing arms is very easy to do , albeit there are a lot of screws to undo / do . I fitted a Jelco TK950S to mine and I couldn't be happier .
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  13. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Is the cable dressing straight forward?
  14. early

    early pfm Member

    Yes , once you remove the stock arm you are left with a big hole ( approx 3" dia ) in the base . Nothing needs cutting / trimming and it is completely reversible .
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  15. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    I don't think that's the right way to look at it.

    You've used what you thought was the best at the time, and it may have been. You couldn't have bought the Technics years ago because it didn't exist. Similarly, I've just swapped the LP12 for an RP10 but thirty years ago when I first bought an LP12 the best turntable that Rega made was the Planar 3.

    The turntable landscape is changing, I guess it always has. Technology is is allowing refinements and developments that were simply not possible before. Some companies are making the best out of these opportunities and others, not so much. Some buyers are noticing what's happening and others are happy to keep the blinkers on. I'm just enjoying the change. it's refreshing.
  16. Nic Robinson

    Nic Robinson Moderator

    Agreed...but the Technics is doing exactly what I hoped it would.
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  17. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Yes, but it's only now you could get that. Sure, you could have bought an SL1200 years ago but from what I've gleaned they were not as good as the new decks. Many people mod them but the standard deck is not a giant killer.

    The RP10 is also much better than the LP12s I've had. Despite being belt drive, the speed stability is amazing. Rock solid. The point is that it's not just about belt, or idler driver verses direct drive. What we are enjoying is decades of development in turntables in general.
  18. Nic Robinson

    Nic Robinson Moderator

    Yes we are. And there will be several brands with excellent products to match your chosen Rega or my chosen Technics/Garrard. Life's too short and I'm beyond the contortions necessary to hear an RP8 (or whatever) with the same cart in the same system as a G (unless you know where this can be done with minimal convenience to me). You like your Rega and I'm pleased for you.
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  19. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    You can probably still buy a good second hand SP10 (or Denon, Sony etc broadcast chassis deck), plinth and decent arm for the price of the SL1200G, so a high-end DD has always been an option at this price point.
  20. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Yeah, but we're talking about what's available brand new in the shops today.

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