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Heroes on A New Career ...

Discussion in 'music' started by killie99, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod


    Ah, crap. I was hoping the disaster was limited to one album.

  2. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

  3. spengenuk

    spengenuk pfm Member

    Reading the blurb on the SDE site, it seems the faults on Heroes and the tape hiss are probably due to the age and condition of the original tapes used which might be fair enough, however the excessive bass on Low is down to how Visconti wanted it to sound, surely this makes it a remix.
    I wanted this set for the Lodger remix but won’t be buying it though it’s my favourite Bowie era.
  4. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    I’d just settle for the original 70’s mastering decisions transferred accurately to digital. It amazes me how wrong these things go over time and I’m sorry I don’t care who it is behind it, but I’m no fan of trying to rewrite history. Bowie’s catalogue is what it is, the decisions taken in the 1970s should be respected. Just transfer it well, stick it in a nice big box and sell it to me!
  5. blossomchris

    blossomchris I am not searching, I know what I am looking for.

    I bought a 2nd press young Americans recently as my 1st press is close to being worn out. Not too bad all things considered, only a little loss of sq if my memory serves me well.

  6. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Vinyl? The green label RCA International reissues are pretty decent and getting collectible in their own right. I’ve got a very good set of UK orange RCA Victor pressings, some not the earliest matrixes but all EX/EX or above. The only exception being Pin-Ups which is a black label reissue, but I’m not bothered about that one really. I’d still love a nice full set of digital Bowie, but I’m not prepared to pay high collector prices for the Japanese or WG RCA 1st issue CDs, most being £50 or more in mint condition these days.
  7. blossomchris

    blossomchris I am not searching, I know what I am looking for.

    My error a 3rd press from 1984,.

  8. killie99

    killie99 pfm Member

    Well said, that is EXACTLY what I want!
  9. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    I don’t have the vinyl box yet so can’t comment on that but I’ve listened to the 192 Low and Lodger and enjoyed them. Much bassier than the benchmark RCA CDs which can sound a bit light but do seem to have a bit more detail and finesse than the remasters.
  10. Rosewind

    Rosewind Lost in Translation

    Thanks for sharing this (all of the comments above + Warszawa's comment)

    Does this mean that the 192/24 digital tracks are mastered differently from the cd and vinyl versions?
  11. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    If he were actually dead. It's an art project, surely?

  12. killie99

    killie99 pfm Member

  13. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    No, they're all the same, just don't expect them to sound quite like the original RCA CDs or vinyl. As someone said, they're essentially a new Visconti mix.
  14. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    I’ve listened to Heroes now. The track really is ruined. Even if it was a master tape issue they surely should’ve balanced the volume somehow.
  15. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

  16. killie99

    killie99 pfm Member

    about bloomin' time. They should have owned up to the astronomical cock up last week instead of trying to pass it off as deliberate.
  17. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    I've compared some tracks from the 192 Low, Heroes and Lodger downloads to lossless rips from my RCA CDs now and while I do enjoy the bass boost in places there's no contest. The new remasters sound compressed and less detailed. They're way below the standard of the first two boxes. I can imagine how bad these sound on vinyl compared to the originals.
  18. killie99

    killie99 pfm Member

    I was listening to some of the vinyl yesterday and thought both version of Stage were better than the originals but then again Stage was never a very well recorded album. Certainly a disappointing box set and easily the poorest of the 3.
    I fear for the next box set as it'll probably contain Tonight, Never Let Me Down and Black Tie and White Noise which I'd rate as a real low point in Bowie's catalogue.
  19. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    The next box was going to be a hard sell even before this fiasco!
  20. garry71

    garry71 Active Member

    My sister bought his 70s stuff (orange labels)as it was released, but played to death on crappy record players of the time. I started buying him when the labels changed to green, but was lucky enough that my dad had bought proper gear by then. All mine sound like brand new still, I think I used to buy an album and then put it straight onto cassette after a couple of plays.

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