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Ideas for a good looking standmount.

Discussion in 'd.i.y.' started by Chris, Jul 19, 2019.

  1. JensenHealey

    JensenHealey pfm Member

  2. crimsondonkey

    crimsondonkey pfm Member

    Boenicke W5s
     
  3. h.g.

    h.g. pfm Member

    I lusted after these when young but my tastes have evolved with time and I would now rather have a pair of wooden 401Bs or 401Cs. Good driver configurations don't evolve with time and a 1" tweeter, 4" mid and 2 x 8" woofers in a sealed cabinet of moderate 1' x 1' x 2' dimensions has got to be close to the ideal compromise for proper hi-fi in the home. A future DIY project perhaps with big chamfers of course?
     
  4. JensenHealey

    JensenHealey pfm Member

    I am not aware of any current commercial speaker that is built on the same principles. Are there any?
     
  5. James

    James Lord of the Erg\o/s

  6. h.g.

    h.g. pfm Member

    There are one or two small sealed floorstanders like the Nordic Tone which are slightly larger. The horizontal driver configuration on a stand isn't space efficient for the home with a conventional vertical configuration very likely being preferable. It can work for bookshelves and for tops of mixing desks or on stands behind them. The most common type of speakers using the 401's configuration would seem to be good quality centre speakers which need to be horizontal, small, placed close to walls and have subs to cover the lowest frequencies making a sealed cabinet preferable to ported.

    As a potential DIY project with big chamfers and a stand I think a vertical arrangement is to be significantly preferred. Horizontal on a bookshelf the point of a narrow baffle with big chamfers is largely lost and a flatish baffle is likely preferable. A design choice to made there between stand or bookshelf usage.

    HIgh quality low frequencies in a typical living room can only be practically achieved with distributed subs which makes a case for a sealed speaker with adequate cone area to handle transients down to 50 Hz. I suspect there may also be a reasonable case without distributed subs for those that find quieter room boom preferable to loud room boom.
     
  7. peterm

    peterm pfm Member

    I had a pair of 401Cs on the end of a Naim 12s /160 and they sounded dead and over damped.
    They also look a bit large if you use them horizontally as intended.

    I thought I'd made a big step up when I replaced the lot with a pair of early Meridian M2s and 101 pre.

    Wish I'd kept the Naim kit now of course (but not the Gales).
     
  8. h.g.

    h.g. pfm Member

    The Gales were famous in their day for being a challenging load to drive for amplifiers of the time. I know little about Naim but their amplifiers were somewhat idiosyncratic and may have well have struggled pushing high currents into the low impedance load of the Gales. A high power conventionally designed amplifier may have been a better match for the speakers or, given you seem to like the amplifier more than the speakers, speakers with a more benign load a better match for the amplifier.
     
  9. peterm

    peterm pfm Member

    The (early) Naims that I had coped fine with Linn Saras and they were a difficult load!
     
  10. JensenHealey

    JensenHealey pfm Member

    I tried to run Gales with an A & R 60 when i first had them Oops.

    now i have a Roksan K2 amp which is very happy with them. not the largest room in the world...about 10ft x 20ft with a low domed ceiling.

    They certainly wake up as the volume increases! when i bought them they were demonstrated on the end of a Linn Klout. Quite loud enough for me !
     
  11. geoturbo

    geoturbo Active Member

    Wilson Benesch Discovery
     
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  12. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    A nice classic build

     
  13. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    My DIY (designed by me, pair) built by Wilmslow Audio

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  14. geoturbo

    geoturbo Active Member

    Cereal are the latter a sealed bookshelf maybe?
     
  15. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

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