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If you were introducing someone to jazz...

Discussion in 'music' started by MUTTY1, Jul 26, 2003.

  1. Swamp Thing

    Swamp Thing Re-educate Leavers in Skegness gulags then deport

  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    It was a key entry point to jazz for me. I bought it at the time for £1.99 and ended up buying almost all of the albums that it samples. I still have the coffee mug you could write off for via the insert, though I ended up giving the album to someone else to start their journey as I no longer needed it.

    PS Looking at the track listing I’m missing the Stanley Turrentine album, I obviously need to fix that! Got the rest.
  3. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    The correct answer is Duke Ellington, big band is very approachable & you may as well start with the best. Blues in Orbit is a good start. The other route in is Louis Armstrong Hot Fives/Sevens (Muggles, West End Blues, No papa no). Miles Davis KOB is the next obvious step.
  4. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Waiting for the streetcar..

  5. darrenyeats

    darrenyeats pfm Member

    I have to admit there are 2 or 3 albums mentioned here I haven't heard! I will catch up soon.

    My answer to the OP question is Search For The New Land by Lee Morgan.

    Sons of Kemet's album Burn contains Adiona's Lullaby and Song for Galeano - I think both are a wonderful fusion of jazz and classical - as well as jazz of other varied, and I'd say even novel, styles! I admit Your Queen Is A Reptile, a disappointment for me, seems homogeneous compared to Burn.

    Funny thing taste, I like both v2.0 and A Humdrum Star. I really like Branches Break from Man Made Object.
  6. palacefan

    palacefan pfm Member

    I got into jazz Years back Gerry Mulligan- Lester Young-Stan Kenton etc but in my view you have to be very careful in making suggestions or giving advice, personally I do not like all jazz and I suspect lots of people would be of that opinion! For example Coltrane going on a trip!! might not lead on to some one appreciating Ben Webster, Perhaps the softer approach of Art Tatum and Bill Evans should come before Monk, who I enjoy and was lauded by the old Scottish film and documentary maker John Grierson (sp)

    Some perhaps would enjoy the DVD " Harlem" ( music also on CD ) which is about many notables meeting up for a photo and a discussion about different types of Jazz and includes Willie "The Lion " Smith the old stride Piano player for example. This I think was in the mid fifties.
  7. Aethelist

    Aethelist pfm Member

    Can't speak as an expert but if I had to say who was my favourite Jazz person growing up as a kid it would have to be Oscar Peterson.

    He had a tv series in the early seventies - Oscar Peterson Presents - Never missed it. Was my favourite thing on the telly. I just loved that guy.

    Night Train is in my top 10 albums of all time. By anyone.

  8. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    Night Train - Oscar Peterson will do the trick for anyone with two ears.

    If they don't like it, kick their effing head in.
  9. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    Jesus, I went to get a track on Youtube, listened to a few and came back with C Jam Blues and you had posted the very same track. I would have chosen your version, but I thought maybe the intro is a bit long. All the same the coincidence is incredible.
  10. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    I assume you have the MPS albums that make up this box? If not immediately buy it! His best recorded output IMHO, and apparently his too.
  11. rough edges

    rough edges pfm Member

  12. Fulci

    Fulci pfm Member

    Time Out is a very easy album to love.
    Waltz for Debbie, Ah-Hum, My Favourite Things, Somethin Else or Autumn Leaves are all must haves in any collection.
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  13. Sean K

    Sean K pfm Member

    Mingus Oh Yeah was my gateway drug (Hog Callin' Blues is just magnificent - Roland Kirk!!!), but Ah Um is probably a better entry point; very accessible and wide-ranging in content/style it surely has something everyone would like.
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  14. Take5

    Take5 pfm Member

    Agree, its great. one of the first LPs i got in to when I got in to swing type music.

    Great as it is, here is something interesting.

    Check out the increase in tempo between the start and the finish. But the increase is so gradual that our ears accept it. Even the greats get carried away with excitement. Fantastic stuff.
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  15. Elephantears

    Elephantears Trunkated Aesthete

    I'd sit them down and plan a multi-pronged attack, starting in no particular order with something like this, beginning with saxophone, then vocals, then Blue Note impressionism, then electric...

    Coltrane, 'Out of This World' (from 'Coltrane' 1962) - this was my gateway to Coltrane; ecstatic from the beginning, with some more challenging sections of overblowing, but propelled forward by Elvin Jones.

    Charlie Parker, 'Lover Man'. Hoping they have a taste for raw magic and strange beauty, and hoping their tastes are not too hi-fi. (I'm not playing them any ECM releases)

    Sarah Vaughan, 'Lover Man'. The most purely exquisite voice of all time, so if the Parker was too raw, surely they're getting it now.

    Herbie Hancock, 'Maiden Voyage'. Still playing to their more refined and exquisite impulses, with this explosion of tone colour and delicacy (yes, you can have delicacy and explosion together).

    Miles Davis, 'Jack Johnson'. Back from the head to the guts; surely I've got them now?

    Note I'm not playing them any late Coltrane or Evan Parker, so I'm keeping my greatest musical passions held back. I'll wait until the earlier Coltrane has sunk in first.
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  16. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

  17. Aethelist

    Aethelist pfm Member

    Introducing someone to Jazz could put someone off for life if you're not careful. I really don't get some of it at all.

    I like Kenny Burrell though.

    What an utter and complete gentleman

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  18. Brian S

    Brian S pfm Member

    Somebody current might not be a bad idea. Laura Jurd
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  19. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

  20. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    John Coltrane - Crescent is an excellent album & a perfect bridge from Giant Steps to Love Supreme. Not listened to any Coltrane for ages so will be putting this right over the next few days.

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