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Is lady gaga really a musical genius?

Discussion in 'music' started by vuk, May 12, 2011.

  1. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    it's not a championing of madonna, merely pointing out what gaga's counter-part in another time was "creating", by comparison. don't you find something very odd about a fit, attractive girl that keeps taking her clothes off, yet manages somehow to be sexually undesirable? the expression she wears on her face is a perpetual teenager's "whatever". it's a sad reflection of this new generation of idiots. it's a crime against humanity.

    i think you've confused her with samantha fox.


    vuk.
     
  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    To my mind that's her strongest visual / presentational attribute, and I am absolutely certain it is intentional. It goes a long way to moving her from 'yet another tedious teen idol' to 'art'. This girl ain't a bimbo, she's not playing to established corporate / music industry stereotypes - she is not yet another manufactured teen sex symbol (which she could easily be if she wanted to), she is far more clever than that.

    Tony.
     
  3. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer fourhundredandthirtytwo

    She may not be a bimbo but IMO her lack of substance will show through in the end. Shes like the love child of Madonna and Marilyn Manson.
     
  4. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    i agree that it's intentional. for me, it's also annoying and disturbing.

    vuk.
     
  5. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Those are damn fine qualities for a pop star IMO!

    Tony.
     
  6. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy


    indeed. i suppose i have become like the fan parent she is trying to offend ;-)

    i just wish there was some political meat to it, as opposed to an elaborate statement of fashion/attitude. you know, i just don't get it. WTF is the matter with these young people: they have been robbed of their inheritance, tricked into two wars, seen their civil liberties taken away ..and what does their culture serve up?


    vuk.
     
  7. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Gaga is encouraging, positive and can show a surprising degree of humility, a fair chunk of her live show has a kind of Obama-lite meets Oprah kind of 'yes we can' / 'if I can get here anyone can' type message to it, but she's no Bob Dylan by any stretch. Protest music is dead, it became hopelessly worthy, forced, trite and generally BonoStingWomad back in the 1980s and has never recovered since.

    Tony.
     
  8. ginmother

    ginmother Member

    absolutely a genius imo, you just have to dig a little deeper.
     
  9. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    tony.

    you just pulled some kind of spock trick on my brain. bono-sting close like that should be illegal.

    vuk.
     
  10. mmaatt

    mmaatt pfm Member

    It seemed like it to me, enough to warrant writing an article in a national newspaper about how superior Madonna was when she started out. At the time she was just a heavily hyped pop star with a fit body, the latter being the only notable asset as I recollect, her attempt to politicize sexuality was reduced to blandness and ineffectiveness in the attempt to be a successful pop star. The song and dance routine was catchy but forgetable.

    mat
     
  11. MVV

    MVV pfm Member

    There was a nice pair of Bonosting three frame cartoons in Vis I wish I'd kept.
    Bono's one- "Bono Goes to Outer Space" was about him being waved off to 'reach out' to new galaxies and civilisations in a rocket.
    Sting's one- "Sting's Journey to the Bottom of The Sea" had an environmental slant and featured him being waved off in a mini-sub.
     
  12. demersal

    demersal Banned

    The guardian article itself doesn't so much miss the point, as completely fail to make one itself. Its a criticism of a critique. An attack on the other hack.

    I care not for her. She's a musical Cnut. But, in deference to the artist herself, who is I believe operating amongst a dearth of current pop talent, her true Mark of talent and longevity should become more clear as the years past. Maybe some feel that she is creating either a cultural or a pop dynasty and legacy of impactful material.
     
  13. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    my prediction: gaga, all saggy at age 51, with no little monsters left, embraces animal rights with a vengeance. another pop star's (the crystal ball is a little cloudy as to who) illegitimate child--a bisexual, overweight vegan with cocaine habit--is routinely spotted with gaga at parties hosted by a wheel-chair-bound susan sarandon.


    vuk.
     
  14. Blzebub

    Blzebub Banned

    vuk.

    Why are you wasting your time & intellect discussing Lady Gaga?
     
  15. demersal

    demersal Banned

    Fair points. A bit like that legend britany spears. Mercurial pop diva etc.
     
  16. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    it's a ploy to generate traffic to my photo website.


    vuk.
     
  17. Markus S

    Markus S 41 - 29

     
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  18. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy

    the extra weight seems to have turned her into a proper musical genius at last.

    vuk.
     
  19. The Captain

    The Captain ~~~~~~~~~~

    What was the thing in the papers about her t'other day/ some trouble she was in? meant to find out.

    I'm becoming a little monster I think, although a bit fat, approaching middleaged bit-balding monster is much more myself. And Im not even a big queen either. She's magnificent. Cant remember a song tho, pokerface cant even hum it! o-o-o-ker-ker or summat. oh the shame!
     
  20. cliffpatte

    cliffpatte Speed camera anarchist

    Don't you need to post the link though ?
     

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