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Joshua Fight -Spoiler

Discussion in 'off topic' started by mand, Jun 2, 2019.

  1. mand

    mand pfm Member

    can’t see a thread on this already.
    Just woke to hear the news - he lost!
    I didn’t watch it, but the reports make out he didn’t look world class.
    Another short lived heavyweight champ.
  2. christray

    christray pfm Member

    Beaten by a boxer if you know what I mean. Joshua looks impressive though.
  3. crimsondonkey

    crimsondonkey pfm Member

    Joshua is still a top fighter who for reasons unknown looked totally unprepared and fatigued. He will come back and do Ruiz but have to watch Fury and Wilder take the advantage, especially psychologically.

    Now we’ll find out if he has the guts for it.

    Fair play to Ruiz though, he took his shot. He pounded AJ to the body and weakened him. Not at all what I’d expect, which is why something looks wrong.

    If I was AJ I’d be having a long hard look at the team who advised and prepared me...
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  4. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    I struggle to understand why, when your only job is to be as physically prepared as humanly possible for one specific day, that you can turn up out of sorts. It's not like he's doing 50 hours a week in a factory and a bit of boxing on the side, this is all he fecking does!!

    I know they have all sorts of experts paid to work out how best to taper exercise and nutrition to build up to a fight, but something is wrong, look at the physical condition of the guy who beat him.

    I think he's carrying too much muscle, it can't be easy to maintain that physique whilst simultaneously trying to train it for a stamina and technical challenge such as top level boxing.
  5. fatmarley

    fatmarley Registered User

    I don't know anything about his training but I do know that it could be natural muscle. Some people are just built like that.
  6. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    Sad that AJ lost last night, he seems to be a decent bloke & a good role model unlike Fury & Wilder.
  7. blossomchris

    blossomchris I feel better than James Brown

    I have not seen the fight yet, but it sounds like body shots were his downfall.

    I would be surprised if he lost the rematch,

  8. christray

    christray pfm Member

    I can't think of a real top heavy weight who looks chiselled in the way Joshua is. Punchers granted ie Bruno but when they face technically gifted boxers they fall apart. Currently Fury is a proper boxer people may not like him but he boxed Wilders ears off. Wilder is poor technically but he can certainly punch as can Joshua.
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  9. drummerman

    drummerman pfm Member

    I was so wrong.

    I watched the pre-fight reports and thought ... what has happened to heavy weight boxing? Ruiz ... overweight, not in shape with both a significant height and reach disadvantage.

    Well, Joshua was totally out boxed, both technically and athletically.

    I believe in H/weight boxing again. Not all fights are fixed and I am hugely pleased for the Mexican.

    I like Joshua a lot. He is relatively humble and very articulate. A likeable character and I am certain he will come back from this.

    Can't wait for the rematch.
  10. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Waiting for the streetcar..

    I think I may have been at Harrow with him - is he one of the Hampshire Fight-Spoilers?
  11. tqineil

    tqineil pfm Member

    Can't take a punch clearly tho granted that Ruiz was determined and tough
  12. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    He did win an Olympic medal so pretty sure he can actually box. Upsets happen in boxing
  13. christray

    christray pfm Member

    So did Audley Harrison lol.
    No doubt he can box just to get in the ring takes massive spuds, unfortunately he is limited.
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  14. christray

    christray pfm Member

    So did Audley Harrison lol.
    No doubt he can box just to get in the ring takes massive spuds, unfortunately he is limited.
  15. hifilover1979

    hifilover1979 Bigger than you...

    IMO he was outboxed by a fighter, not a boxer... Ruiz did superbly well and it was a deserved win; AJ just looked hammered and TBH I don't think he expected it and maybe gave Ruiz too much leniency
  16. vuk

    vuk \o/ choose anarchy


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  17. lordmortlock

    lordmortlock pfm Member

    Styles make fights innit.

    Fair play to Ruiz, he executed his game plan superbly. Got inside well, he has really quick hands for HW and that helped him close the distance. He’s not afraid to take a few on the way in either, decent chin.

    Joshua, in contrast, didn’t seem to have a plan, let alone be able to follow it. He was easily flustered and I just wonder if Ruiz hurt him a couple of times early on and shook his confidence a bit. He’s always been quite one dimensional imo and that really showed last night. His head movement was almost non existent.

    I think he probably wins the rematch (especially if Hearn can swing a UK venue) but beyond that I think he gets outpunched by Wilder and outboxed by Fury.
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  18. tqineil

    tqineil pfm Member

    will he get a rematch?
  19. lordmortlock

    lordmortlock pfm Member

    For certain. It was in the pre fight contract.
  20. crimsondonkey

    crimsondonkey pfm Member

    It wasn’t too much muscle that cost Joshua this fight, it was turning up looking completely disinterested, with no discernible game plan, and with fitness yes but no hardness and capacity to take punishment, which is a shocking lack of preparation imo.

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