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Labour at it again... anti-Semitism... #II

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Stunsworth, Jul 7, 2019.

  1. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Genuine question as I am no where near informed about Scottish politics as you are, but if you could tell if you are/were you a supporter of Leonard and why, it would give me a bit of context.
     
  2. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Indeed
     
  3. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    I had some champagne last night, but am I a socialist?
     
  4. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    No, no no. It takes more than just champagne....you're safe for now.

    It'll take lots and lots of beer and sandwiches to turn you into a real socialist.

    Sandwiches aren't that necessary.
     
  5. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    I see where you want to take the discussion, but the answer is I voted for Leonard when I was a member of the party, however he has not impressed me. I have serious misgivings about the SNP's economics and don't want to give them any more ammunition to marginalise Labour. The statement from McDonnell is ill-conceived, high handed and anti-democratic and has driven a wedge between Scottish Labour and the rest of the party.
     
  6. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Doctors are vintage Port proletariats.
     
  7. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    Damn! I hate port.
     
  8. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Given your philosophical leanings you're also Burgundy Bolshevik.
     
  9. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    That's more like it!
     
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  10. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Many thanks. It was a genuine question. I know your feelings about all things Corbyn, and I believe you to be 'of the left'. We have argued and agreed before, just exploring the ground between us, that's all. Not quite sure what you mean about where I want to take the discussion, all I can say is that I do not have a destination in mind
     
  11. Brian

    Brian Eating fat, staying slim

    AS obviously exists but is exaggerated. istm you appear not to understand the purpose of a smear campaign.

    Is it? Evidence?

    No, I don’t.

    Out of date, so more drivel.
     
  12. gassor

    gassor There may be more posts after this.

    I thought you were going for the old "you are not a fan of Leonard and are using any excuse to bash Corbyn" routine. Apologies. PS I see myself in the most maligned political group imaginable - the centre (well on economic policy, but towards the left on social policy). Incidentally, that's where I see the SNP, but I can't connect with their economic take on a newly independent country - too many unanswered questions.
     
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  13. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    fify
     
  14. Brian

    Brian Eating fat, staying slim

    drivel
     
  15. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Scottish Labour has accused the BBC of bias over its investigation into anti-semitism, leading to claims that Richard Leonard has simply copied the UK party’s attack lines on the broadcaster.
    Leonard’s party, which until now has said nothing about a documentary into how racism claims were dealt with in London, has also refused to back the whistleblowers who came forward to complain about Labour.
    Ephraim Borowski, director of the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities, said: "We are again disappointed, but no longer surprised, to see Jewish community concerns being dismissed."

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news...-investigation-blasting-quot-biased-quot-bbc/
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
  16. maxflinn

    maxflinn Bernie Sanders 2020.

    “The [Israel] Embassy helps us quite a lot. When bad news stories come out about Israel, the embassy sends us information so we can counter it… it’s really helpful. We work very closely together. But a lot of it is behind the scenes.” Michael Rubin, Labour Friends of Israel

    Matt Kennard on Twitter
     
  17. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    This is what embassies do. It is their job. If there are horror stories about Brexit going around, for instance, the UK embassy in Rome may invite half a dozen journalists to lunch to give them further and more accurate information. Any embassy is in place to further the views of the government it represents.
     
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  18. AndyU

    AndyU pfm Member

    So what? Why wouldn’t the Israeli embassy act in the interests of Israel? It’s what they do. I dare say our embassy in Tel Aviv looks after what it believes to be British interests.
     
  19. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    The what is this. Peter Willsman was accused of anti semitism precisely for suggesting links between certain groups inside Labour and the Israeli embassy.
     
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  20. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

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