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Liquid soap

Discussion in 'off topic' started by mik_rik, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:16 AM.

  1. mik_rik

    mik_rik pfm Member

    Apparently soap is effective against this virus.Before starting a dirty job,I always apply liquid soap to dry hands as a sort of barrier ,made cleaning much easier.Could be just as effective as hand sanitiser,worth a try , Mick
  2. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    This will make a mess of your skin. If you want to do this, there are Swarfega-type hand cleaners that need no rinsing and that can be bought in DIY stores /Car parts places/ Screwfix etc. Use as directed, wipe off on a rag, job done. Skin kind too.

    Your method will work fine in an emergency though. Just rinse it off when you get the opportunity.
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  3. timH

    timH Senior Moment Member

    COVID has an outer fat layer (so I believe) hence soap is a good cleaner. Many household cleaners contain non ionic surfactants which makes them good at breaking up fats and oils - so again good cleaners. All these cleaners will also dry up skin so keep hand lotion nearby. As an aside when I was a kid we used soap to clean our hair and even washing up liquid at a push
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  4. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Correct. I think formally speaking it's a protein-fat complex but I won't split hairs. As you say anything that attacks fat will kill it. Soap, shampoo, washing up liquid, laundry powder, alcohol, they all work. Just keep on washing.
  5. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    I used washing up liquid as a shampoo for years as a yoof. I've never used shampoo for washing up, though.
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  6. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    I suspect most shampoos are just liquid soap/detergent with a scent and colouring added and some imaginative writing on the bottle. My wife once bought one that said it contained "silk molecules," the idea being it would make your hair silky. I've used soap in a bar to wash my hair for the past 25 years and it looks gorgeous.
    Regarding The Virus, I wonder if diluted ammonia would work, since it de-greases very effectively, e.g window and windscreen cleaners which are basically ammonia, I think...
  7. timH

    timH Senior Moment Member

    I’ve got some orange swarfega that might work. It’s got micro balls in it and citrus extract. Grease doesn’t stand a chance
  8. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

  9. deanf

    deanf pfm Member

    Hairy liquid?
  10. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Even though I went bald twenty years ago I've still got my favourite comb. I just can't part with it !
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  11. Dozey

    Dozey Air guitar member

    The use of silk has its origins in trademark law. The Sunsilk trademark was objected to as it was deceptive if it did not contain any silk. Of course if it did contain silk the mark would be descriptive, but they managed to argue it was not purely descriptive.
  12. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Yes they are. I know this via a friend in NPD for Unilever (L'Oreal). Shampoo, hand gel, shower gel, all basically the same base mix, same set of chemicals, add fun stuff to taste. Generic own label shampoo works.
    Yes it would. Different chemical means. Ammonia is hugely reactive, that's why it's so toxic. Bleach works the same way. They are both very alkaline and that takes organic molecules to bits, thus killing stuff. It's academic though, when boring old soap and water works perfectly.

    Yes, but see above. Why would you want to? I can take a Sherman tank to the shops, but a car is a damn sight better for that job.

    That's interesting. We have similar things in food labelling. Milk, cream, and so on are protected and the food has to contain the actual dairy material. The getout is if there is historical precedent, so salad cream contains no cream, never has, but people have been eating it (ugh, but takes all sorts) for decades and that's what it's called. Likewise soya "milk" etc. The manufacturers of elderflower champagne tried this one, we all know there is no champagne in it, but the champagne houses had better lawyers and more money so they now have to call it "elderflower sparkle" or similar.
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  13. Caledon1297

    Caledon1297 pfm Member

    Is Benzalkonium Chloride effective against Covid-19?
  14. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

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  15. Darren

    Darren All Business

    Ahem... small confession.... For one winter I found myself washing from a bowl using a kettle of water and some shower gel. Once dry I would add my pots to the bowl and wash up in the still warm , soapy water. It worked very well.
  16. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Yes. It's a quat, it kills viruses the same as the other quats that are commonly used in sanitisers (CPC and DDAC).
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  17. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Thought that was the stuff they smoke (and chew?) in the Horn of Africa and thereabouts.

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