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Looking for recommendations for a 'warm' sounding DAC

Discussion in 'audio' started by duckworp, Jan 14, 2020 at 12:27 AM.

  1. Rosewind

    Rosewind Lost in Translation

    I thought that it was the flat-earthers among you Brits who outlawed tone controls.
     
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  2. DavidS

    DavidS pfm Member

    Indeed the 82 requires the best ps you can put on it to tame the harshness.
     
  3. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    Adjusting tonal balance by swapping boxes and cables seems insane when Peter Walker solved the problem generations ago with the slope or tilt control
     
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  4. Ptah

    Ptah pfm Member

    The Exposure 2010S2 is a great and sweet sounding DAC for not too much money.
     
  5. lazycat

    lazycat pfm Member

  6. 406v6

    406v6 pfm Member

    I’ve got an 82 and Chord Dac in my system after demo’ing the DAC through several sets of speakers at the dealer including various B&W models. To my ears all of the B&Ws were top heavy, bass light and close to the point of being harsh. Agree with the point made by DavidS about the 82 benefitting from a decent power supply. All of the above leads me to the conclusion that you’ve got, irrespective of the source, a system tuned to creating the toppy thin sound that you don’t want. The latest Chord Dacs are detailed and neutral to my ears, not harsh. My advice would be to correct the underlying problem (the speaker / amp combination) rather than over compensate with a dull DAC. Keep the Chord Dac and replace the speakers.
     
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  7. Stuart Frazer

    Stuart Frazer pfm Member

    Another option is via Mark @MJS at Witch Hat, who will mod the 82 to be more like a 52 with various power supply options.

    My advice is to power the 82 better firstly and then see which way you want to go after that.
     
  8. lazycat

    lazycat pfm Member

    So. A guy asks for a component for his system which 'fits-in'.

    All we get is your amps need upgrading, your speakers are sh*te. etc etc and backed up with diagrams/charts.

    There are some valid points, especially with regards to Naim (I had Naim amps for 26 yrs).

    But all he wants is a dac which suits his system. Can't we just get with the task in hand? Instead of dissing his whole system.

    Sometimes I despair of this forum.
     
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  9. JezmondTutu

    JezmondTutu pfm Member

    That’s exactly my experience of B&W and Naim amps.
     
  10. JezmondTutu

    JezmondTutu pfm Member

    I don’t know why you feel that way as they are valid comments based on experiences. Easy to blame one component when the core issue lays elsewhere.
     
  11. ryder

    ryder pfm Member

    Which Chord DAC?

    If it were me, I would either replace the B&W 804S with a Harbeth or replace the Naim 82/180 with 282/250DR if the music is hurting my ears.
     
  12. Thetiminator

    Thetiminator Painfully virile

    I agree with advice re an older DAC. Trichord Research Pulsar would be my choice. Mega bucks in its day and £200-£300 will get you a total minter. Lovely analogue sound...
     
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  13. lazycat

    lazycat pfm Member

    Yup there are valid comments, some of which I agree with. But, he justs wants a piece of kit which fits into his system.

    And his experience with Chord dacs compares with my own. My Proacs are IME are far more neutral than any B+W speakers.

    Sometimes British kit, of any kind including dacs, is vastly overrated.
     
  14. russel

    russel ./_dazed_and_confused

    It was but we like to blame everything on everyone else, it's the national sport.
     
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  15. maccar

    maccar pfm Member

    Either the RME ADI2 or an Audiolab M DAC+
    Mac
     
  16. Electrostat

    Electrostat Active Member

    If you are able to solder I would consider an Audio Note UK kit. The entry model I heard sounded like it rolled off around 13 KHz.
     
  17. DimitryZ

    DimitryZ pfm Member

    I have an NOS DAC - modern made, that is not doing anything. I will be happy to send it in, for a donation of your choice to an animal charity of your choice. It is 120 vac, but it's easy to get an adapter.
     
  18. andrewd

    andrewd pfm Member

    I also have an aversion to metal dome tweeters. I like Dynaudio tweeters myself, but have by no means heard all the alternatives.
     
  19. Hayche

    Hayche pfm Member

    DBX 215 or any graphic equalizer. Turn your hotspots down.
     
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  20. geodiak

    geodiak pfm Member

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