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Low compliance MM or MC

Discussion in 'audio' started by Mark Packer, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. Mark Packer

    Mark Packer pfm Member

    I have a Zeta on a Townshend Rock with brackets and a paddle which makes for an effective mass over 16g. Consequently I’m looking for a low compliance, reasonably priced MM or MC as a spare.

    my Koetsu Rosewood is 10micro thingies and is a perfect match.

    What would fellow fishes recommend?
     
  2. early

    early pfm Member

    If it's just a spare than a Goldring E3 would fit the bill.
     
  3. Mark Packer

    Mark Packer pfm Member

  4. Darren L

    Darren L pfm Member

    Mofi's range of MMs should suit and sound pretty good
     
  5. chartz

    chartz pfm Member

    How about el cheapo DL-103 ?
     
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  6. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Audio Technica AT-3600L

    Farcical cheap, less than £10 delivered, from China! Low compliance, high tracking weight, sounds ridiculously musical for the money.

    "The AT-3600L. When you really are a tight b******!"
     
  7. chartz

    chartz pfm Member

    I have a Rega Carbon, yes it is ridiculously good.
     
  8. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Yip, same cart.
     
  9. narabdela

    narabdela who?

    Same cartridge, big price difference. ;)
     
  10. chartz

    chartz pfm Member

    I paid € 25. Not too dear.
     
  11. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    10 micro thingies? Not sure what this is. The Rosewood (Red K) shunts out about 0.5 millivolts, I believe and has an internal impedance of 5 ohms with a rec. loading of 100. Regardless, I'm not at all sure you'd be happy changing to a more lowly spare should your K. need replacing/refurbishing. A low compliance m.m. looks like an oxymoron, so would be thin on the ground, I feel.

    Maybe a Hana? Cheap but universally liked. Maybe a Benz, which is on the warmer side of neutral. Neither of these would require damping, I'd've thought.
     
  12. PerF

    PerF Member

    I was about placing my order on a couple of these for spare duties, along with other stuff.

    Better to wait as most carriers, flights etc are suspended next month or two
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2020 at 7:23 AM
  13. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    They're dirt cheap, just order them anyway. They'll turn up. I always have a few here.
     
  14. Mark Packer

    Mark Packer pfm Member

    The 10micro thingies are the compliance. I couldn’t find a mu for micro
     
  15. Mark Packer

    Mark Packer pfm Member

    Thanks guys keep the ideas coming.
     
  16. audiopile

    audiopile pfm Member

    Not cheap as chips -but very nice and relativly low compliance -Goldring 1042 -I own 2 -a sure sign I like 'em -plus replaceable stylus and OEM styli still available.
     
  17. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    16g isn't that extreme...any compliance figure from 10-16 and cart weight from 5 and 12g will be fine.
    I owned a rock for many year...lovely sound.
    Assuming 'reasonable' to be in the context of the rosewood, and keeping some of the rosewoods warmth and bass weight, I'd have said the Hana SL, but the SL likes >400ohms. Perfect mini Koetsu if you can do the required loading.
    Otherwise I think a similar sound would be one of Ortofon's 'bronze' range, tuned for a slightly less cold and clear presentation over the blue and black. The Quintet is a fine all rounder, and at 9g and a compliance figure of 15, also a perfect arm match, and at >20 Ohms, probably an easier load for your phono stage?
     
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  18. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    As I thought (my post above). I've had Ks but not Hanas, so you've reinforced my idea of having a 'cheap' K. No idea about the Hana's output, though, and I think it depends as much on the phono stage as to the best loading compromise as the stated figures.
     
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2020 at 11:00 PM
  19. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Not AT ALL cheap. These were £120 plus 20 years ago, they were £200 when discontinued and replaced by the 2500 series (iirc). Great carts, but far from cheap.
     
  20. PerF

    PerF Member

    I have recently aquired a 1012 & 1042 in need of new life, could you direct me to mentioned OEM styli and eventual any views ?
    Thanks
     

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