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My Bloody Valentine Reissues

Discussion in 'music' started by Warszawa, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    FINALLY, after years of speculation and teasers, Kevin Shields is finally happy with the "Isn't Anything" and "Loveless" vinyl reissues and they're due January 18th.


  2. crimsondonkey

    crimsondonkey pfm Member

    Bundle ordered. Thanks for the heads up.
  3. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

  4. rdf

    rdf pfm Member

    I dunno. I've all got three Lovelesses and four Isn't Anythings already. Part of me wants these, too. I want to hear how they sound, but a) I'm regularly unimpressed or downright disappointed with the sound of represses b) I hate 180g vinyl: it doesn't agree with my turntable; and c) I don't want to be one of those soft marks paying fortunes to re-buy his youth.

    All that said, I'll probably get them anyway, and hate myself for it....
  5. RickyC6

    RickyC6 Infuriate the frog-men

  6. Warszawa

    Warszawa pfm Member

    Mr Shields has put so much work into these it'd be rude not to.
  7. Premmyboy

    Premmyboy Active Member

    Pre ordered.
  8. barryb

    barryb pfm Member

    I have the so-called bootleg/ not-so-bootleg print of Loveless that Shields had truck with some years ago. Sounds good to me. Maybe it's just me but I'm happy with almost any print of this album.
  9. rdf

    rdf pfm Member

    The ones on Plain? I have those, and they're not bad, though I don't think I ever play them. You all persuaded me by the way. I've ordered the new ones too. I am weak.
  10. guey

    guey pfm Member

    I'm a bit baffled as to how anyone could ascertain whether these will sound better, given their odd, woozy production.
    Particularly when they've been remastered by someone, who by his own admission, has hearing damage; and is relying on audio memory from over 25 years ago.
  11. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    This is my worry. The Cocteau Twins remasters from a few years ago were simply horrible, almost unrecognisable to the beautiful floating ethereal originals. I strongly suspect they were the result of someone who spent far too long listening to high-volume guitar distortion without ear protection and has a massive presence region notch in their hearing.

    I really like Loveless, but only have it on first issue CD. Given this is almost certainly a flat master transfer it doesn’t sound like there is a lot to work with. It is hugelly layered and opaque with no real dynamic range at all. It sounds like the stereotypical ‘monitors way, way too loud’ mix to me which sounds great in the studio at the time, but will never sound big or powerful at low volume on more modest speakers as really there are no dynamics or space. I suspect there is really little to do here, but if it turns out these are actually good I’ll order a copy. Please anyone who buys report back!
  12. rdf

    rdf pfm Member

    The Cocteaus ones were odd all right. Blue Bell Knoll was okay, but Heaven or Las Vegas had two tracks (I think Iceblink Luck and the title track) which sounded completely different to all the others. Weird, almost phasing, and compressed. They really stood out as different. And a strange end to the last track, where the original faded out.

    I actually don't think Loveless is quite so layered and opaque as all that. As my system's got better over the last 20-odd years, Loveless has got simpler and simpler. Get inside it, on a revealing system, and there's not really all that much happening. It's about texture, and that comes out with something that can reveal very fine detail. It's an exercise in making a lot out of a little.

    Conversely, (and somewhat OT) I was listening to The Smiths the other night, for the first time in donkey's years. With my new headphone amp, I could hear just how many different guitar parts are on those records, and some sounded "bitty" and disjointed. This guitar plays this chord, then this one plays the next, it's crazy in places. Some songs -- songs I know inside out -- suddenly sounded kind of a mess, fussy, and over-worked. Get it through the speakers and turn it up, and everything merges together. It sounds like there's less than there really is, and it forms a coherent whole.
    RickyC6 likes this.

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