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New Phono Stage ?

Discussion in 'audio' started by wiresandmore, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. wiresandmore

    wiresandmore pfm Member

    Hi

    Currently running an RP8 with Dynavector 20X2L into a DV P75 Mk II stage (amps are Devialet 440Pro CI).

    Although in general I am very happy with the deck, the upgrade itch is here - I find the sound somewhat dull at times and not always as dynamic as I'd like.

    With £750-800 or so to spend, I'm thinking about changing the phono stage - but with very limited local options to test (I live in Dublin) I'm curious what others would suggest?

    Is the new Planar 8 such an upgrade I should look at that?
     
  2. pit

    pit Active Member

    Hi
    My goals are heed audio and tron convergence.
    I didn’t auditioned the tron but it is rumored to be incredible and of course a tube masterpiece
     
  3. tenpercenter

    tenpercenter Don't ya rile 'em.....

    DV P75mk4 - huge upgrade over earlier versions IMHE, especially with DV cartridges
     
  4. Nagraboy

    Nagraboy pfm Member

    If you’re using Devialet amps can’t you use the internal phono stage it has? Have you tried that already?
     
  5. wiresandmore

    wiresandmore pfm Member

    No, there’s hiss on the Devialet phono stage, it’s a common issue with these amps - which is why many are using external alternatives
     
  6. varyat

    varyat pfm Member

    +1 on the Tron :D
     
  7. YNWOAN

    YNWOAN 100% Analogue

    I’m surprised you find the DV stage dull as this is not a description often used to describe - somewhat ‘mechanical’ yes, but not dull.
     
  8. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    For fear of being lynched- but I always tend to find Rega TTs and arms dull, I think changing to a new P8 would just be more of the same.
     
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  9. joe9407

    joe9407 actress/activist

    i'm considering one to replace my P75 mk1 (i don't have the space to add a physically larger stage, otherwise i'd be looking hard at the Tron Convergence). would you be so kind as to expand upon why you liked the new one versus the others?
     
  10. YNWOAN

    YNWOAN 100% Analogue

    Unless there is a profound alteration to the circuit (an entirely different circuit in other words, not just component changes) I have never heard what I would describe as a ‘huge upgrade’ over that which existed before - more refined then yes, but, in essence, much the same.
     
  11. YNWOAN

    YNWOAN 100% Analogue

    I have listened, at length, to the Tron and rate it highly. The only thing that gives me pause for thought is how different in concept and ‘ambition’ it is to your Devialet gear. The Tron stuff really is aiming at a very different sound - no less valid (perhaps more valid/genuine), but very different to the Devialet.
     
  12. wiresandmore

    wiresandmore pfm Member

    How would you describe the Tron sound in comparison to the P75? Do Tron have any dealers or is it only sold direct?
     
  13. s1h1

    s1h1 performing within expectations

    Have you tried a SUT?
     
  14. tenpercenter

    tenpercenter Don't ya rile 'em.....

    The mk4 jut sounds more real compared to the mk2. Bigger, more refined with easier to follow bass lines that have more texture as an example. I play guitar in a band so I like to listen out for how the instruments sound like on their own merits but also as part of the whole song - the Mk4 makes it easier to do this. It’s kind of the same musical connection that an LP12 can give you (though not the last word on hifi detail etc)

    Try and listen to one in your own system if you can.
     
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  15. wiresandmore

    wiresandmore pfm Member

    Yes, but didn't think the hiss was completely resolved.
     
  16. wiresandmore

    wiresandmore pfm Member

    Out of interest, which t/table would you recommend then? I've been down the LP12 path before but setup, maintenance and upgrades are a real challenge here - I had to travel to England with it in the car which was far from ideal!
     
  17. BLACKMASS

    BLACKMASS pfm Member

    I would add the Trilogy 906 to your list. One very happy owner here.
     
  18. sls4321

    sls4321 pfm Member

    I have a Devialet 250 Expert Pro and use the phono stage extensively. It's one of the reasons I bought it. I have two arms, Koetsu Urushi on 12" OL Illustrious with OL silver cable and Ortofon 2M Mono on 12" Jelco. The sound is wonderful and no audible hiss when playing. It's better than my previous Art Audio Silver Reference that cost a fortune.
     
  19. berty bass

    berty bass pfm Member

    I'd add an NVA Phono 2 to your phono stage shortlist too. I like mine a lot and thought it a significant step up from the Rega MC Fono I had before. Just about to add the second PSU to mine now.
     
  20. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Ah, I wasn't suggesting you dump the TT. Has it always sounded a little dull/un-dynamic whilst you've owned it?
     

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