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Nina Simone or Aretha Franklin?

Discussion in 'music' started by merlin, Sep 19, 2017.

  1. merlin

    merlin Avatar changed - Town names deemed offensive.

    To be fair, as far as I can remember, the most militant thing Ella ever sung of note was to suggest that it could be a bit damp in London on occasion.
  2. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    Nina Simone or Aretha Franklin?

    Whose work speaks to your soul?

    See, since Lady Soul sings soul, and the Fitz girl sings a sort of bluesy jazzy style, there's still just the one answer.
    If the Q was, who has the more emotional voice, it'd be closer.
  3. gassor

    gassor "There may be more posts after this."

    Ella has the purest, most joyful voice I have come across. Her timing is perfect and she hits every note with ease.

    In some ways the other extreme (for me) is Billie Holiday who emotes every line in her pained world weary way. She can have a light touch and knows how to grab a tune. Her voice changed quite a bit in her life, but is is never less than totally arresting.

    If asked to choose I reckon;

    Aretha Franklin
    Billie Holliday
    Ella Fitzgerald
    Patsy Cline*
    Nina Simone
    Dusty Springfield

    * Capable of very subtle, contained emotion and her voice is crystal clear.
  4. MichaelC

    MichaelC pfm Member

    This is what I like about PFM. To very recently I had not really tried the worlds of Nina Simone and Aretha Franklin. Chatting about this Mrs C said she used to love listening to them when she was a teenager. So, enter Nina Sings The Blues and an Aretha best of. For me, Nina Simone wins hands down, she's got soul!
  5. blossomchris

    blossomchris I am not searching, I know what I am looking for.

    Another singer who could compete with Nina and Aretha would be Odetta. Totally missed her first time around.

  6. jimi

    jimi pfm Member

    I have a CD of her singing Dylan covers she has a very powerful voice imo not as good as Aretha though.
  7. blossomchris

    blossomchris I am not searching, I know what I am looking for.

    I know what you mean, a bit like Joan Armatrading, Apparently she was an activist in the civil rights movement, been around since the 50's.

  8. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    Impossible to compare them, so different in every way. But Aretha sends shivers down my spine.

    Its a bit like saying John Coltrane or Sonny Rollins. Or meat or fish.
  9. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    But Aretha has this unique, most amazing voice. Simone can be a bit gruesome and depressing.
  10. linnfomaniac83

    linnfomaniac83 I bet you can’t wheelie a unicycle!

    Picked up on this thread rather late but I’ll give my thoughts anyway. I think they’re both amazing but both very different. For me, Aretha wins, I listen to her music a lot more than Nina Simone and I’ve quite often said that she’s the best female singer in the world... in my opinion of course. Her rendition of Bridge Over Troubled Water makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck.
  11. blossomchris

    blossomchris I am not searching, I know what I am looking for.

    I think the op was as much interested in their choice of material and lyrical content, rather than the voice quality alone.

  12. clivem2

    clivem2 pfm Member

    Let me try this out as a theory.

    Many of us will have grown up with Aretha music playing, it touches our memories and tugs our emotions. The same is not the case with Nina, I can't recall Nina being popular in my formative years, this alone colours my opinion. As an example - Aretha / I Say a Little Prayer; it's hard for me a imagine a more perfect song. It's not just vocal range but timing and production too. I terms of lyrics - I rarely listen to lyrics, instead I hear vocals as an instrument; this is down to the way my brain executes its phonological processing.
  13. Dozey

    Dozey Air guitar member

    Nina did a fair bit of composing, and piano playing. I listen to her more.
  14. The Strat

    The Strat Meet the new boss, same as the

    When I was in my teens there were 2 singers who always grabbed my attention like no others. One was Aretha although strangely I owned none of her albums and the other was Paul Rogers. And to this very day it's the same. But at the time I didn't really understand jazz and even now I'm still relatively uneducated. However, I'm slowly discovering Nina, her voice is compelling, her music very topical and as been said a very good pianist. There's room for both - surely?

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