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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+10)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by ff1d1l, Nov 26, 2018.

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  1. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    What an odd thing to be sure of. Must indeed be a deeply held feeling.

    A little like mine that had Labour come out against brexit right away, not colluded in article 50, maybe mounted the legal challenge that Miller did so they could take the credit for the standing up for parliamentary sovereignty it represents, and opposed, they might be ahead in the polls and not have to rely on pisspoor apologist whingers saying polls don't matter, and the media are all against us, they might, just might, actually have something like a movement behind them instead of melting away, a voter base comprised of those who respect their views held with conviction and they would be the corresponding voter bonus. Remember, only 17.5M voted for this shitshow - that's a lot of votes just waiting for Labour to pick them up.
     
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  2. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    Yes. And Labour would be in chaos.
     
  3. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    A narrow view, opinionated shitshow I'm afraid.
     
  4. jtrade

    jtrade pfm Member

    I'm equally sure of the opposite.

    Sean & Harry - you are both sincere & passionate Labour Party faithful, but this single-minded support of Corbyn appears to be exactly what is preventing you from seeing that taking the stance that Gina M proposes would be the outstandingly courageous move of a true leader that would finally blow the Tories out of the water. Instead of sinking into the quicksand of the current stance.

    Anyway, not so long till we all find out what actually transpires...
     
  5. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Labour didn't come out fighting after the EU Referendum and are going to lose lot of supporters. They certainly don't deserve to get into power. What a bunch of cowards they have been over arguably the most important decision of the last 45 years.

    At least the Scots are doing the decent thing. It will be sad when the UK breaks apart, because Tory and Labour Brexiteers have decided to bow down to the racists in the nation.

    Jack
     
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  6. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Wow, you actually think Labour could do even worse than poll roughly level with the worst Tory government in UK history? Way to set a high bar!
     
  7. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    How could you possibly tell?
     
  8. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    So what happens when it (inevitably) gets voted down in the commons? I heard a couple of Tory MPs earlier saying - "she can then go back to the EU and get a better deal" - but that doesn't seem on from everything I've heard.
     
  9. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    They have a movement behind them, ready to keep pushing despite reservations and anxieties. They also have a large number of people trolling them who have basically been wrong about everything since before Corbyn was elected leader, and who would never support them in a million years. Why would Labour listen to their advice, even for a moment?

    For someone so committed to Europe you aren't paying much attention to what's going on there. It is remarkably easy for social democratic parties to do much, much worse than incompetent and malign right wing governments right now. Labour are doing exceptionally well, in uniquely challenging circumstances.
     
  10. Nero

    Nero BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK BLACK

    So, it's the 11th December. A couple of weeks for the whips to pop peerages, knighthoods or indiscretions into the conversation

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Marchbanks

    Marchbanks Hat and Beard member

    @MVV - if you are still looking for 4/1 on ‘deal’ I think you can currently get 9/2. I think I’ll be putting something on that tomorrow.
     
  12. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    Why indeed. Or anyone's advice for that matter.
     
  13. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    To which I say "I hope you enjoy 10 more years of Tory rule" (and we'll still be out of the EU).
     
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  14. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    You're extrapolating Labours current trajectory?
     
  15. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    C4 News interviewed three of the government’s MPs -
    One wanted remain, one wanted total Brexit, one wanted May’s deal. Welcome to your easiest deal ever Brexit
     
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  16. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    Did you not see the clown, I mean, Welsh secretary guy with the bloke in the background with the placards?
     
  17. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Tony is not just the clown- it’s a clown pageant
     
  18. notaclue

    notaclue pfm Member

  19. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Yup the Orange Anus and his handler Putin both have the same goal- weaken the EU and weaken the peeled off U.K.
     
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  20. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Don't worry though. Jezza and Labour are in favour of Brexit, so we will be alright.

    Jack
     
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