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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+11)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Colin L, Dec 8, 2018.

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  1. Tigerjones

    Tigerjones Bagpuss

    137th. Proper tickled me.
     
  2. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    For info:

    2/3 of Labour voters voted Remain.
    2/3 of Labour constituencies voted Leave.
    Therein lies the "paradox".

    Among Labour Party members a significant majority (70%+) support a second referendum.
    A majority (I'm willing to bet) still support Corbyn's leadership.
    Another paradox!

    Shittest Conservative government ever.
    Labour and Conservatives are nip & tuck in the polls.
    Paradox ^3!!!

    I wonder if all these paradoxes are, by any chance, connected?
     
  3. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    Its a LAAAP a minute on here tonight...
     
  4. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    What’s your theory Drood? I’m genuinely interested.
     
  5. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    Yup, PFM has gone full hard-Remain echo chamber tonight. People are just making up any old shit and attributing it to Labour, regardless of the facts or logic ("Labour will support a May's Deal vs No Deal referendum"- I mean, WTAF?!). Or indulging in magical thinking about how Labour could change May's policy if only they screamed LOUDLY enough into the void. And all at a time when the Conservative Party is on the verge of self-destruction.
     
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  6. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    Bunnies. It must be bunnies.
     
  7. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Is that trying to get away from Naddine Dorries?
     
  8. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Are you smokin wot Bloss’s smokin?
     
  9. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    I hope not.

    Seriously: Brexit confounds normal political allegiances. It's not much of a theory but it has the merit of being true, and explanatory.
     
  10. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Not necessarily.

    Constitutionally Corbyn has to be offered the chance to form a government if The Tories couldn’t.
     
  11. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    I get that. It slices through both major parties but it’s the fact that constituency majorities and voter majorities are not aligned.
    BTW - have you got tinnitus yet from the hard remain echo chamber? It must be hell.:eek:
     
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  12. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley


    so Renault own a controlling interest.
     
  13. Swamp Thing

    Swamp Thing Green Member

    Right Jenkins, we're going to sit here in the bunker with our hard hats on as the winds of public opinion swirl about above us. Every so often we'll have look through the periscope and see what people think. So we know how not to upset anyone.

    What's that? Talk to people? Convince them with argument, fact ands logic? Preposterous poppycock Jenkins! Mandelson taught us about focus groups, and even though it is now official policy to hate those pretend New Labour plastic socialists, we do rather seem to be behaving just like them because it suits us.

    What? Of course we don't want Tory Brexit. Tory Brexit will bankrupt the country. We want Labour Brexit, which is exactly the same except the bankruptcy will all be the Tory's fault. Yes, yes - we're sacrificing the country for ideology that we'll never afford to introduce, but that's completely different than sacrificing the country for Tory ideology - which is obviously worse. Jenkins, I'm not really sure you are one of us.

    And don't tell anyone that we might like Brexit. We have no official position. If we did it might upset someone. Pyrrhus? Never heard of him.
     
  14. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Smell the fear wafting from Boris, Fox and the other desperates,

    “This babble about a 'People's Vote' undermines our credibility and treats people with contempt”.
    -Boris Johnson.
    “Liam Fox has echoed a chorus of senior Scottish Tory warnings that staging a second EU referendum would give Nicola Sturgeon the leverage she needs for another independence vote”.

    - Daily Telegraph.

    Im dead curious- why would offering people a direct say in the known, final deal be treating them with contempt? I also like the “chorus of senior Scottish Tories”- there’s only 13 of the buggers in Westminster! BTW Boris the Liar scoops about £7k every time he turns out one of his paragraphs in the Telegraph.
     
  15. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    Wouldn’t that be 51%?
     
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  16. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    The crazy thing is we hear exactly the same guff time and again from Labour MPs.
     
  17. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    You should see the comments under stuff in The Sun about a second referendum- they’re saying they’ll be out in their high vis jackets rioting if there’s a second public vote, then this article came up next-

    “Couple claim they were refused room at £100-a-night DoubleTree Hilton in Hull because they weren’t ‘posh enough’”.

    It’s wot Brexit's all about.
     
  18. kendo

    kendo Prussian bot

    Brexit is starting to make "The Rapture" seem like a good idea...
    It's just about as tangible in a "leap of faith* " sort of way.

    (* faith in what exactly?)
     
  19. jay

    jay built for speed

    Faith in Britain lad!

    Leaving is obviously a crap idea, but, let's all just be pragmatic about it and have a sense of fair play. Stick to our guns and we'll all just wait the apocalypse out. How hard can it be. We won 2 World Wars you know...
     
  20. NeilR

    NeilR pfm Member

    Me too. I am an ardent remainer and worry that it will prove too devisive and the the result may not be what remainers might expect.

    Personally, i'd just rescind Article 50 in the national interest ;-)
     
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