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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+13)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Bob McC, Jan 1, 2019.

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  1. Jim Audiomisc

    Jim Audiomisc pfm Member


    Indeed. Any 'free trade' deal with the USA is likely to include them insisting their medical companies can cherry pick and exploit the NHS for profit, extend IPR on medicine, and things like the results of genomic research, etc. People forget the the way USA concerns have hoovered up IPR on 'genes', etc, and the cost implications.
     
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  2. Jim Audiomisc

    Jim Audiomisc pfm Member

    I found their steak was good but their apples and milk were awful. This was a few decades ago, though. Apples seemed to be sold on size, not flavour.
     
  3. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    That means Gavin Williams gets to threaten Grayling with his tarantula. Putin must be watching all this, rubbing his hands and deciding his next humiliation.
     
  4. timola

    timola pfm Member

    I agree, we have the best apples, I can't remember if I enjoyed their milk. The melons were awesome.

    IPR is an issue, I think it's their business at all costs attitude, they want to monetise everything. IPR on genes is a worry to me because the benefits of GM crops, Gene therapies and embryonic research are absolutely huge and have the potential to save humanity from itself.

    Recently I read scientists ( American I think) worked out a way to improve the efficiency of Photosynthesis by 10%...wow!
     
  5. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    If we do leave without a deal, I want a staunch leaver to be in charge. They need to own this.

    Stephen
     
  6. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Wrong kind of exons I’m afraid. Might keep Trump’s offspring alive till they’re 150 but they’ll boil like frogs when they get there.
     
  7. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    USA is a huge market with the best and worst of food. The best in California is probably better than most items in the UK.
     
  8. tuga

    tuga pfm Member

    It's 40% and of tobacco plants. So much for saving humanity...wow!
     
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  9. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Strange that Americans have one of the lowest life expectancies of any developed country. The USA is the world leader at making money from illness and injury
     
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  10. tuga

    tuga pfm Member

    They make I'll or injure the population with massive servings of bad food made with highly" engineered" produce... Oh but what profit!
     
  11. timola

    timola pfm Member

    Why look for the negative? That was just the plant under study or maybe its most amenable to research. The genes/ technology may/hopefully be transferrable.

    I imagine all crop yields going up by 40% in the future....so yes its a huge wow!
     
  12. tuga

    tuga pfm Member

    There's profit in that plant. Just a coincidence, I know...
     
  13. kendo

    kendo Prussian bot

    If, or more likely when the £pound is only worth not many cents how attractive will this potential deal!!?? with Trump's (FFS) America look?
    If Trump thinks it would be a good thing then you must know it couldn't be anything but a f*cking disaster for (very) Little Britain.
     
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  14. russel

    russel ./_dazed_and_confused

    Tobacco is a standard research plant, it grows quickly IIRC.
     
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  15. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    I remember thinking there’s every type of fresh fruit and vegetable available all year round there, like there’s four seasons all year round. Good example of a huge geographical single market....oh wait a minute.
     
  16. Realist

    Realist pfm Member



    Can you see it coming yet?
     
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  17. HairyHaggis

    HairyHaggis <((((º>`•.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸.•´¯`•...¸><((((º>¸.

    Quite. And this should be self evident to all but the wilfully hard of thinking
     
  18. Vinniemac

    Vinniemac pfm Member

    Anyone who thinks there are sunlit lands up ahead in a trade deal with the USA with Trump in power is on another planet. Have a look at this thread which examines the summary of American negotiating objectives with *the EU*, a much larger and more powerful trade body than the UK: https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidHenigUK/status/1084077109407027200

    “On agriculture this is about as clear a statement in support of hormone-treated beef and everyone's favourite chlorinated chicken that you're going to find. Wonder if Liam Fox has been briefed on this?...Conclusion: US Trade was never generous, but they knew trade was a negotiation for mutual gain. No more, this is simply a 'me, me, me' list, to be ignored by the EU. But what will the UK do when faced with a similar document? Should be more clear really - on the basis of these negotiating objectives there's no way any self-respecting country including the UK could possibly start trade negotiations with the US. Another problem for the UK Government.”
     
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  19. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    And their chocolate tastes like vomit.
     
  20. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Only Hershey. There's a lot of good chocolate in the US now - just like there's a lot of good beer here. However the fruit and vegetables were incredibly poor when I lived in California in the late 90s / early 2000s - and expensive - I couldn't figure out why.
     
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