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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+2)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Buntobox, Feb 5, 2018.

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  1. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

     
  2. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    Ahh OK. Peace, love and esperanto..
     
  3. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    My technique is to scribble notes, put them under the person’s nose then score them out and scrunch them up.
     
  4. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    Brexit: carmakers step up warnings on impact of uncertainty

    I wonder if leave voters might finally accept that leaving the EU was a bad thing if we do lose the car industry?

    European car makers are facing a double whammy though—Brexit and possible USA trade tariffs. Although I wonder how Americans will feel aboutan increase in car prices? US steel isn't going to make US-made cars cheaper.

    Stephen
     
  5. markvdv

    markvdv pfm Member

    First Trump proposed a fueltax, now this. Trump really wants Americans to buy smaller cars. He will get his Nobel prize, savior of the planet.
     
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  6. eternumviti

    eternumviti Bloviating Brexiter

    I've been in and out (been to the rEU, by golly), and I may have missed it, but we are now 2 days into the ever so slightly calamitous Italian election result, and there doesn't seem to be a single mention of it on this thread, or indeed on the forum.

    Should I assume pfm's many-shaded resident EUphiles are collectively holding their hands over their ears and singing 'LA-LA-LA!', loudly, or is there something else going on?
     
  7. NeilR

    NeilR pfm Member

    there is not a lot so say until a government is formed and policies are agreed upon.

    Why not start a thread about it if you are so interested in discussing it?
     
  8. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    The olde “we got out of the burning building in the nick of time” chestnut? Looks like UK car manufacturing is checking the fire exits as we speak.
     
  9. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Youre a right little ball of contradictions aintcha?
     
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  10. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    Your version of facts? WTF. That is the most arrogant and nonsensical thing I've ever read.

    Here is how it really is sunshine. There are facts and opinions. I'm interested in facts. Your opinions are neither here nor there though they do confuse me.
     
  11. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    It's 'LA-LA-LA!' for me. If the EU falls because of nationalist xenophobic right-wing parties taking control of their Governments, we're f&UkRD in or out of the EU.

    Still, it's what a lot of you want to happen.

    Stephen
     
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  12. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    Italy can, and has, functioned perfectly well without a strong Government. Perhaps it is actually the preferred result.
    The anti-immigration vote is understandable in a country with half a million illegal immigrants and some sort of solution does have to be found to it.
     
  13. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Italy literally plucked drowning migrants from the sea and is supporting vast numbers of them, while a certain other country welched on its public commitment to take refugees. So to stand back and luxuriate in the difficulties Italy and the EU face from this human calamity, seems rather disgusting. It is the Ukip/ white ethnic nationalist way Im afraid.
     
  14. markvdv

    markvdv pfm Member

    Well Italian result is anti-EU, not EU sceptic. But an all populist anti EU government seems unlikely, for now.
     
  15. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I was in Naples 18 months ago and the number of migrants living on the streets is staggering. Around Piazza Garibaldi, the railway station area, there are hundreds. In the past there were very few, you just didn't see them. While I was there the Police had an armoured car parked outside the station 24 hours and armed police patrolling the area. I'm not surprised people are getting a bit concerned as to how to handle this.
     
  16. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

    it's the way of the world these days, Dec. Everything is fragmented. Noone can control anything any more because they can't herd people or categorise for targeting in the way they used to.
     
  17. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

    Ok to all of that except the arrogant bit. Why is it arrogant?
     
  18. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Before the migrants arrived, Naples could have done with an armoured car outside the station. Last time I was there (during another infamous mafia-ordered refuse collection strike) I saw two guys shooting up herion on the concourse and ten min later two of us were mugged with violence on the pavement by six men in broad daylight - with pedestrians and cars going past. A friend who lived in Rome went down to attend the ordination of a priest he knew and got dropped off at the church by taxi. Later that evening he phoned the taxi company to come and collect him and they refused to send a car to that area in the dark. It has been a mafia run disaster area for decades.
     
  19. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    This is the thread for exalting European liberalism. Another thread has been started to mourn it, and to suggest a few grown up alternatives to democracy.
     
  20. richardg

    richardg Admonishtrator

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