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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+20)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by farfromthesun, Apr 4, 2019.

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  1. maxflinn

    maxflinn Tulsi Gabbard 2020.

    Can you explain exactly what behaviour of Corbyn's you deem to be 'hard-left'?

    Or is it that, in fact, you're just regurgitating a meaningless, baseless right-wing slur?
  2. maxflinn

    maxflinn Tulsi Gabbard 2020.

    So you're saying he's not currently exhibiting any 'hard-left' behaviour, but that he will if PM?

    Can you tell us exactly what this behaviour will be?
  3. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    We've all got heritage, and we're all going to get a good dose of vasselage too. We should probably have taken precautions.

    Ah, bojo, of course.

    I don't think anyone can predict anything at the moment, but I thought you might welcome the Telegraph's one anyway.
  4. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    Indeed. Kind of marxisty behaviour.
  5. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    Fight!!! :)
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  6. maxflinn

    maxflinn Tulsi Gabbard 2020.

    You can't say what this behaviour will be because you're talking through your anus.

    Labour's manifesto is where you look to see the effects of Corbyn's behaviour.

    Check it out. It's very, very popular.

    Who knows, you might be converted.
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  7. h.g.

    h.g. pfm Member

    Type "corbyn hard left" into google and you might find out. If you can't be bothered that is upto you.

    I would like to think so and it is why Corbyn occupies almost none of it until he performs some action to indicate he has modified his behaviour and is worth reconsidering. For example, rather surprisingly to me McDonnell has done this to some extent but Corbyn hasn't so far. Taking action in support of a second referendum would be one such action that demonstrates he can act in the interests of the labour party and against his own belief that the UK needs to be out of the EU in order to pursue the typical hard left policies of state control and the like. This is an example of the sort of compromise people on the political extremes have a great difficulty making but is essential in order to build support and get things done in the real world. It is pretty important if the labour party is to win back much of the support around the centre that it has lost. The support of our host, for example, I suspect has been lost for quite a while but I am willing and want to be persuaded but only by action and not mumbled support. Otherwise I will vote purely on what seems best locally and ignore national parties since none of the centre parties look particularly viable to me.
  8. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    Oh, I've seen it. Very seductive it is too.

    I just don't believe it.

    You don't hear Corbyn talk so much about Venezuela now. Can't think why that might be.
  9. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

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    Vinniemac pfm Member

  11. MVV

    MVV pfm Member

    The panic displayed above by our Conservative friends is justified. They are about to go down the plug hole forever. Every cloud has a silver lining so brexit, so beloved by the right, will kill them in the end.

    Ha ha, and the best bit? They know it. So there they stand, high on the window ledge; jump you bastards, jump!
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  12. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    This is beamed in from an alternative reality where Corbyn is calling for the abolition of royalty, unilateral nuclear disarmament etc., has not whipped twice for a 2nd referendum, is locked in a House of Cards-style power struggle with his lifelong comrade, and does not operate in a first past the post parliamentary democracy where broad alliances are the order of the day.

    And if there are people out there who support almost everything Labour stand for and plan to do, but won’t countenance voting for them until they adopt exactly the same position as them on one particular issue, then the problem isn’t really with Corbyn’s refusal to compromise.
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  13. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

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  14. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    Yes. The Labour leadership team will be scrutinising all polling and analysis and will almost certainly have access to private polling not available to the general pubic.
  15. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    That has a ring to it.
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  16. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    Leave it Sue eeeees not wurffff it.
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  17. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    Interesting, where was Lammy wrong in the Marr interview?
  18. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    Hahaha. Have you been on the same stuff as Jack?

    They won't get as far as being a real party. They're a bunch of egotistical chancers who are interested in sound bites, TV interviews and hearing their own voices.

    If they did get that far they'd be planning to do a deal with the Tories before a deal was even a likelihood. Vacuous arses with no policies or principles.
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  19. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    You're wasting your time. TonyL is the only. person I've come across who is more intransigent than Teresa May. Detests Tories but won't vote Labour, hence making a Tory government more likely.
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  20. HarryB

    HarryB pfm Member

    More nonsense. Give me a single example of Corbyn "bowing down to racists and nationalists". Corbyn has campaigned against racism all of his life. Indeed he has campaigned for all the things you believe in. You do realise that do you?
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