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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+22)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by TheDecameron, May 29, 2019.

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  1. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    Have you nothing else to say about anything Jack? I'm sure we're well past the point of thread crapping by this stage.
     
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  2. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Thread crapping is precisely what you are doing. I have replied to a post put up on this thread where Tariq Ali said that Corbyn would be campaigning for Leave if he wasn't the leader of the Labour Party.

    Your comment here is, to be quite honest, pathetic.

    Jack
     
  3. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    Sorry Jack I shouldn't have personalised, it's just that it's relentless finger jabbing stuff. Best I just let go of this, to be honest.
     
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  4. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Thanks Sean. I was going to suggest we ignore each other's posts, but that would undermine the debate. :)

    Ironically enough Tariq Ali left the IMG and joined Labour in 1981. He did this to support Tony Benn in his bid to become deputy leader. They were both political heroes of mine, apart from the EEC/EU and no doubt one or two other issues.

    Jack
     
  5. i.j.russell

    i.j.russell pfm Member

  6. farfromthesun

    farfromthesun pfm Member

  7. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

  8. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    Predictable. And why there’s no chance of a no confidence motion winning a majority.

    Hard Brexit here we come.

    Stephen
     
  9. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Sterling just tumbled on the news. Led by donkeys indeed.
     
  10. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Great for British exports- steel, Jaguars, Land Rovers etc.
     
  11. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    Until you add on any tariffs.
     
  12. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    I should imagine John Mann and Lisa Nandy etc in Labour, although I might be wrong. I wonder if Corbyn enforced a whip on the vote?

    Jack
     
  13. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    Hoey and Flint at least supported the Government again. They’d vote against a no confidence as well I suspect.

    How do these people still have the whip? Voting against a Labour motion?

    I lost the will to Search further.

    Stephen
     
  14. The Far North

    The Far North pfm Member

    According to the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48613921
     
  15. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    Will the eight Labour MPs against the proposal today vote to ensure No Deal happens on October 31st, because there will be another effort to stop it. It wouldn't surprise me if they do.

    It is starting to look like Johnson could be PM. The original Sky rundown after his speech today mentioned the questions he didn't answer, like cocaine usage. Later on when reporters were querying Tory MPs all of that seemed to have been swept under the nostril.

    I don't think Osborne's Evening Standard mentioned it at all. They seem to be backing Johnson to be PM.

    Martin Fletcher at The New Statesman has got it right though Repellent, chaotic and a serial liar, Boris Johnson would be a catastrophic prime minister https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...JrzGPdNlivu8qJglGpDflH6OSQmgcNAvKVPw-VIrRzATs

    Jack
     
  16. SteveG

    SteveG pfm Member

    Has Corbyn ever done that?

    Anyway it'll be interesting to see what Labour do as those 8 votes made the difference between a win and a loss on their own motion.
     
  17. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Is there a full list of the Labour gammon who lost the vote yet?
     
  18. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    True. Makes it hard for him to act!

    But voting against a no confidence if they do has to be a sacking offence.

    Stephen
     
  19. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    I imagine that would be. In the mean time there's no point sacking people who you need to win around, and may well still be able to: apparently 5 of the 8 hadn't rebelled on Brexit before, so they're not die hards. WTF they're actually thinking then I don't know. But underlying it, according to Stephen Bush anyway, is the assumption that this isn't the last chance they'll get to stop no deal (Bush isn't so sure).
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/06/britain-heads-no-deal-mps-gamble-brexit
     
  20. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Rory Stewart’s thin veneer of common sense fell off and shattered on the ground on C4 news earlier when Cathy Newman challenged him on why he’d sided with the hard-Brexiters and voted with the government despite all his prior rhetoric. His defence was hopelessly weak.
     
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