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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+24)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by eternumviti, Jul 23, 2019.

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  1. tiggers

    tiggers pfm Member

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  2. Barrymagrec

    Barrymagrec pfm Member

    I think you are correct to an extent but in some cases, such as this the facts are little known and the publicity on it`s own will annoy the government and generally be useful.
  3. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    The 7M one received widespread press coverage, and the website which broke down the signings to parliamentary constituency gave many MPs brown trouser moments, and made them have second thoughts about their parliamentary conduct, at least for a while.
    While a legal challenge would be just dandy, you, or I are probably not going to be mounting one. We can, however sign petitions like this, which only takes a moment, and incrementally add to kickback against the erosion of what is moral, constitutional and legal by this government.

    Eg this.
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  4. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    It does no harm, signed. The lies were bad enough, keeping the true impact from people is worse. I know there are plenty unconcerned with how much damage this does, but many will be bothered.
  5. farfromthesun

    farfromthesun pfm Member

    Simply insane article.
    The irony is dripping off this bit.
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  6. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    We need more of this

    "Ministers will have draconian powers to bring in curfews, redirect food supplies and even change the law without consulting parliament in the event of a no-deal Brexit."

    Johnson is getting the war his Churchillian ambitions desire.

  7. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    To his own constituency where Tory money never arrives.
    ....manufacture a crisis then seize draconian powers to manage the population response to it. Next stage will be to identify scapegoats and direct the anger at them.
  8. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    Isn't that the plot for ...


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  9. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    I agree with the idea of a legal challenge. The son of a guy I know works in Parliament. He says the only petitions the Cabinet take any notice of are the official Government and Parliament ones. All the others are a waste of time, if you want to get the Tories to do something.

    Of course the the government will brush the petition off. They will come up with a pathetic excuse for the gagging orders and might well wheel out security issues. The latter crop up whenever they want the public or organisations to shut up.

    It will be interesting to see how the petition grows. I've posted it on Facebook and twitter.

  10. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    We have had judges named as Enemies of The People, now we have a sitting Prime Minister brand MPs as “collaborators”-

    “Boris Johnson has hit out at what he described as a “terrible collaboration” between MPs and the EU trying to block Brexit, as he refused to rule out shutting down parliament and holding a general election after leaving on 31 October”.

    The implication is clear- he’s accusing British MPs of conspiring with a foreign power and wot do we do with terrible collaborators?
    He’s now going full Trump-Orban.
  11. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    There should be a Bannon collaborating with foreign demagogues whose aim is to destroy Western democracies. Isn't that right Boris?
  12. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Trump has declared the EU a geopolitical foe. His former adviser was on a Newsnight last night calling the EU a left wing dictatorship and that Britain and any other country wishing to leave will get a great trade deal with America. Britain has a special relationship to is entitled to a very special deal but he couldn’t say what it would be, nor did he say that one half of Congress can and will block it.
  13. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

  14. tiggers

    tiggers pfm Member

    He's just paving the way for his no deal Brexit vision with the caveat that it wasn't his fault when it all goes tits up. Bear in mind this is the 'man' who didn't make up his mind which way he was going to vote until half way through the referendum once he had worked out which way would give him the best chance of becoming PM of course. A more spineless, opportunist, morally bankrupt piece of pondlife you are unlikely to find even within his own cabinet and that is saying soemthing!
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  15. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    McCluskey really is a useless prat. If I hadn’t abandoned Labour ages ago he’d certainly help me do it again! I’m now at the stage where I feel Led By Donkeys are the main opposition!

    PS I signed the petition, for what it is worth.
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  16. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    That’s going to...ahem.... crystallise voting intentions at a GE. So it looks like Labour has been trying to play the table from both sides for gain right enough (and it’s backfired). We’re getting a Brexit that works for Farage and the Provisional wing of the Tory Party.
  17. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    Maybe this has been obvious to everyone for ages but it seems to me that Brexit has polarised things way beyond what it means to trade, GNP, treaties, jobs etc.... It's become a battle of good against evil (ie Brexshitters) for the very soul of the nation.

    From the language used by quitters such as "traitors", "quislings", "collaborators" etc one would think that EU SS stormtroopers were occupying the UK and forcing people into trains to be carried to concentration camps.... Quite what they think is going to happen IF we leave god only knows... do they think all foreigners will be deported? that it will become legal to torch Mosques?

    What part of their lives are so enslaved by the EU that they need to "take back control"?

    No, what its all become is a symbolic fight against liberal, inclusive, educated, intelligent and tolerant people by the
    "football hooligan", racist, xenophobic, "Alf Garnet" demographic who, being rather dim, have been ruthlessly used by the puppet masters behind it who want a low tax, no regulations, off shore tax paradise for the rich and scruple-less spiv demographic.... I reckon that to the average quitter scum bag (calling people traitors etc) that anything about jobs and trade has long been forgotten (if indeed it was ever an issue to that type)... all that matters to them now is that they can say "we won"...
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  18. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Waiting for the streetcar..

    It's also a proxy for those who feel left out of the prosperity that successive government have brought to other parts of the UK.
  19. kendo

    kendo Prussian bot

    By making themselves and almost everyone else even poorer. Idiots...
  20. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    You know I keep reading this sort of thing.. that it's a knee jerk reaction against austerity and against the loss of traditional manufacturing industry etc etc but I really can't see this at all. If that was the case then the Tories would be the butt of their anger and frustration and people would be voting in a Labour gov by a landslide in the hope that a socialist gov would reverse Tory cuts, increase benefits and help with a redistribution of wealth from the haves to the have not's (ie exactly what I'D like to see more than anything else!) and from rich areas of the country to impoverished ones.... quite why the EU would be blamed is a mystery to me...
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