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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+5)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by droodzilla, Jul 9, 2018.

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  1. The Far North

    The Far North pfm Member

    The problem is that he would possibly be quite happy with a no-deal Brexit, and he's using the press to prepare us by blaming the EU for his/our incompetence in actually negotiating. Does he actually mention solutions for Ireland, Gibraltar and suchlike?
  2. nicetone

    nicetone pfm Member

  3. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    What bollocks. Remain is the status quo. No ambiguity there, unlike the leave ejaculate.
  4. markvdv

    markvdv pfm Member

    Status quo is no deal Brexit.
  5. Dave***t

    Dave***t pfm Member

    Is this a weird way of saying you don’t care for the veteran rock band? Because otherwise it doesn’t make a lot of sense.
  6. slavedata

    slavedata pfm Member

  7. markvdv

    markvdv pfm Member

    At the moment UK will have a no deal Brexit, status quo is no deal Brexit. No actions have been taken to prevent the automatic no deal Brexit. Only actions can prevent the no deal Brexit, the default future of UK in Europe/World. Prior to 29 March 2017 the status quo was EU membership.
  8. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Possibly this is the sort of thing ET is getting at.

    "The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want."

    Michael Gove April 2016

    "Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy – the UK holds most of the cards."

    John Redwood July 2016

    "There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside."

    David Davis October 2016
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  9. kendo

    kendo Prussian bot

    A triumverate that couldn't have possibly been more wrong.
    This is what happens when people listen to and act on what politicians say when they are talking complete and utter SHITE!

    (...but it would seem that many heard just exactly what they wanted to hear, which is where the smelly stuff kicks in...)
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  10. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    To be fair to ET, which is not my natural inclination, by 'no going back' I assume he means the UK privileged opt-outs would be gone, in which case he is probably right that there is no going back to that precise situation.

    Remaining in the CU and SM would of course be better than where Fox, IDS, Johnson, Mogg, Redwood and co wish to be.
  11. tuga

    tuga European

    Cake and eat it?
  12. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Becomes stale bread and choke on it.
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  13. notaclue

    notaclue pfm Member

    And neatly put here is how those same voices are now moving on to the WTO. They got it (very badly) wrong with their predictions of the EU & Brexit. They are the same ones telling us WTO will be fine, some even promising it will be better than now. Anyone trust them? o_O
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  14. The Far North

    The Far North pfm Member

  15. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    A lot of the average life expectancy numbers were skewed by really high perinatal and childhood mortality.
  16. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    You are looking at one of the Chief fraudsters of Tory Brexit. Quieter than Johnson and the others because he’s been busy making side deals with his American GOP backers. He’s now rather clownishly demanding that “the EU negotiates seriously”. He and his gang need to take a hard look in the mirror because they’ve ****ed this country for their own benefit.
  17. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    Well, yes, absolutely true. Absolute contempt for the Chequers fiasco unites everyone - leavers, remainers and the EC alike. Except for Mrs May, who seems to want to keep digging that hole.

    EC intransigence may well be a common theme of mine, but it makes it no less real. Apart from its questionable legality within Lisbon, a point raised today in the press (Article 8 of the Lisbon Treaty states that the EU must “develop a special relationship with neighbouring countries, aiming to establish an area of prosperity and good neighbourliness, founded on the values of the Union and characterised by close and peaceful relations based on cooperation”), allowing the UK to crash out will clobber your precious jobs and public services right across the EU, most particularly in Ireland (a predicted hit of up to 4% in GDP), Germany, France and Spain.

    You ok there ffd? The tape is on a loop, and the hard drive seems to be failing. If you must persist on the status quo twaddle, bear in mind that these old islands have only spent the last 40 years of their rather longer history in the EEC/EU.

    No, it isn't.
  18. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    Thanks ET, I'm a-persistin'.
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  19. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Patience, your about to get your Brexit in a few months. It could be a wonderful surprise.
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  20. Vinniemac

    Vinniemac pfm Member

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