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Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+6)?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by ff1d1l, Aug 7, 2018.

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  1. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    Leaving the Dim Bastards March (renamed especially in honour of its new re purposing). How very appropriate.
     
  2. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    No, I really don't. Intergovernmental accord doesn't require political union of any sort. I agree on the matter of ceding such sovereignty as is only necessary for those accords to be regulated, as in by intergovernmental bodies of one sort or another, but this need not come close to the EU project's ambitions.

    I'm not sure that I understand the question, beyond it being the same dodgy conceit as the oft posited one ' name an EU law that affects you personally' (there are 22,000 of them, so quite a lot I suspect). The UK opt-outs are clearly relevant to the debate, but I imagine increasingly irrelevant to the future of the EU, and to our influence within it were we to stay. But yes, Lord Hill's better off just inside the fence than just outside is an argument that I respect, even if I don't necessarily agree with it.

    Sorry about the parables. I've never been any good at the precis.
     
  3. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    Holst was German?! Nonsense, he was as English as me, and he lived just up the road. By coincidence I listened to a fabulous performance of Elgar's Enigma Variations in his parish church three weeks ago. Nimrod was a triumph.

    https://www.thaxtedfestival.org.uk/junior-guildhall-symphony-orchestra.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Holst#/media/File:The_Manse_-_geograph.org.uk_-_845330.jpg

    P.S. Land of Hope & Glory makes me flinch.
     
  4. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    And Handel. And the Royal Family, presumably they're house in Saxe-Cobourg.
     
  5. gingermrkettle

    gingermrkettle Deep vein trombonist

    From a German family, who only dropped the von from von Holst the generation above him.
     
  6. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr pfm Member

    EV I was conscious of the ‘give me one example’ thing when I wrote the post, but hoped that you’d be able to see past it to my genuine enquiry. Clearly you think the EU goes too far, but you seem to accept that some degree of common cause is necessary, so I’m trying to see where you draw the line, and I’m none the wiser. If I could understand where and why your line is where it is, I might be able to get on board with your argument, but if it’s simply an inchoate dislike, then I am lost to you, sorry.
     
  7. MikeMA

    MikeMA pfm Member

    I see you've missed out God Save The Queen. Probably for the best as it's the Prussian national anthem but with different words. Shouldn't we take back control and get a new one?

     
  8. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr pfm Member

    The Benny Hill theme might not be entirely inappropriate
     
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  9. gingermrkettle

    gingermrkettle Deep vein trombonist

     
  10. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I hear that Saxony is very nice at this time of year.
     
  11. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    Like I said, as English as me.
     
  12. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    I don't know, and my brain won't engage any more, too many other things to do. Suffice it to say, a long, long way south of where the EU is ideologically placed.
     
  13. Marchbanks

    Marchbanks Golly, do I ever have a lot of soul!

    I’ve noticed that you sell Austrian (and Alsatian) wines, but no German ones. Is this an ideological choice, or is there no call for them amongst your clientele?
     
  14. notaclue

    notaclue pfm Member

    You'll be eating your words come next April. Though I suppose at least you won't go hungry...
     
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  15. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

  16. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    I’d wash the manure from the garden lettuce though, antibiotics may be in short supply.
     
  17. eternumviti

    eternumviti pfm Member

    Wonderful, beautiful wines, but no market for them.
     
  18. Still

    Still he said his naim was ralph

    Perhaps you need to improve your business skills.
    The Wine Society does a roaring trade selling these.


    Man rejects utopia but buys Brexit lies.



    I didn't get where I am today without knowing a Rochdale Herald headline when I see one.
     
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  19. jackbarron

    jackbarron Chelsea, London

    It's an informed list. Such indeed is the eerie silence around May's meeting with Macron, to sell him her Chequers deal, that I'd completely forgotten about it.

    Jack
     
  20. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    They’re filling in the potholes in the WW2 Kent airfields and wheeling out the knackered old Buccaneers to show the Franco-German axis we mean business. Raab has volunteered to have himself strapped to a 500 pounder. At least he’ll be good for something.
     
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